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Ron: Actually, I was NOT bashing all doctors or ALL pharmaceutical companies; I do see that most doctors, unless they've studied on their own about nutrition, are quite uninformed, which is sad, because if we don't figure out what balance we need to keep our bodies "running smoothly", the results are physical problems, which THEN are diagnosed and most often prescribed DRUGS. I happen to have several friends who are doctors, also 2 relatives who are recent graduates of medical school. They've all quickly admitted that they need much more training in the field of nutrition in medical schools. The pharmaceutical companies are making incredible money on these drugs..check the statistics. The fact that "natural" products cannot yet be patented, resulting in no money to be made, speaks for itsself. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the FDA, the Pharm companies, & doctors are all working together to keep it this way. It's an individual choice as to what you want to put into your body, whether it be booze, street drugs, whatever. I've seen so many adverse side effects from prescription drugs in people I know & care for, and I'm just seeking a better way to deal with health problems and prevention. I happen to love people dearly and my heart goes out to them when they hurt, and I just try to help however I can. Dianne At 01:10 PM 9/27/96 -0400, you wrote: ><<<Dianne <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: SELEGILINE-Side effects.. > >In no way am I telling anyone what meds to take or not take. I merely >passed on the information I had read in this particular book (as I stated >in my original letter). It wasn't my OPINION, it's printed in many >prescription drug sources. Anyone's welcome to read them anytime. When I >said I wouldn't take it myself, I was speaking ONLY for myself. You see, I >am no longer on any prescription drugs, thanks to all natural products I've >discovered. In researching them, I found there have been double blind >studies done on these things for years & years, but the FDA can't patent >them, so there's no money to be made...I was quite skeptical at first but >then when I had a heel spur and the Doc said "OPERATION", fortunately I was >told by a friend what natural supplements to use to rid myself of it and it >worked. Also, friends and family with Lupus, M.S., Fibromyalgia (my >daughter), Hypothyroid (my mother), and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome have found >relief with natural products and are now feeling tremendous energy; also my >in-laws (now 88 & 89) are finally off all prescription meds and are doing >better now than 5 years ago, mostly due to the fact they no longer are >experiencing dizziness, fatigue, etc. which were common side effects of the >meds they were on.>>>>> > >I also feel inclined to comment on these words: >1) the FDA - food and drug administration - does not patent. The FDA does >rule on whether a "medicine" may be sold legally in this nation for use to >cure or alleviate medical or health problems. >2) drug companies will patent their discoveries and then seek approval to >sell as prescription drugs or medicine. >I think your intent was to express negative emotion about drug companies >seeking maximum profit - id est, only seeking approval of patentable >medications. (There is no profit in most drugs or products not having the >17 years of monopoly sales to recoup the cost of testing to obtain FDA >approval.) >3)Dianne obviously advocates alternative medicine. There is much OPINION >that prescription medicines are "bad" because drug sellers are "bad" - and, >doctors are "bad" is thrown in also. >(my opinion: many are overpaid for their efforts, but there are charlatans >in alternative medicine who profit on ignorant average citizens.) >4)the placebo effect (human anatomy heals itself) is very important. One's >belief in expectation that healing will occur if touched by the charismatic >- or consuming the "natural products" - or the "wonder drug" - or the "like >magic magnets" et cetera - is the very ultimate in doctoring oneself. We >do not know formally how to even describe the wonderful chemistry of the >evolved animals - and, the naked ape is most gifted by cognition that is >conscious and able to abstract and communicate what homo sapiens has >collectively learned over history. However, knowledge implies learning - >and, the learning is better achieved by some - who can take advantage of >ignorance. There is also truth and valid informing as well as lies, >mis-informing, non-valid-discovery and correct scientific explication of >the formerly unknown or undescribed or incorrectly understood. >5) one more caveat: reverse placebo - is perhaps as destructive. Believing >that one is "doomed" may well cause the will to die rather than live a >future that seems to be "living hell". Brain chemistry is partially >responsive to attitude. Be spunky. Vitality "is" joy in living. living is >caring positively for self. self "is" the process - cognition - trip >through time - with bringing joy and sorrow to self and others. living >well "is" keeping "well" (not being sick). keeping well is charismatic and >contagious. adult-hood (in the cognitive abstract) "is" loving and knowing >self and others. Laugh if you have not learned to crow. To Hell with worry. > >ron 1936, dz PD 1984 Ridgecrest, California >Ronald F. Vetter <[log in to unmask]> >http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~rfvetter/ > >