Dear Don: Thanks for the information about the pill box timer. Your description is very similar to the one I bought three years ago. It still is as loud, but my hearing has deteriorated, that when it goes off someone 20 feet away in a fairly quiet environment will hear it, but I will not when the the timer is in my pocket. I have jury-rigged another one which was intermittently useful but caused some emberassment when it went off in a dark theater. > With best regards and thanks for the trouble you've taken Steven >Storkie1@ aol.com, known off line as Don Boyer!!!! > > Steven E. Mayer, Ph.D.