I would like to thank John for posting his very informative message again and emphasize that one does not need to read every posting. If you find a particular person's postings tedious, please just delete the message without reading it. Each of us comes to this list from a different perspective and not everyone is going to be able to relate to every other person so let's be a little flexible....our bodies may be rigid but our minds don't have to be. :) There is just one correction to John's message. I am no longer a daughter. My mother died on April 5...on the 75th anniversary of her wedding day. Thank you all for making this discussion list so helpful and informative. What a group! Barb =========================================================================== Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 School of Nursing ===========================================================================