The stories of Stan and of Gail's dad are reminders we need from time to time, even though these dangers have been discussed in the past. There are always new members who need to be made aware of the importance of informed advocacy for the patient, especially in hospital situations. Check the archives if you are one of these who wasn't here in past months. Email to John Cottingham, our archive "guru" will help--- [log in to unmask] put "ARchive Search"in the subject line. Camilla Flintermann,CG for Peter,78/8 who had a similar experience!