Dear Barbara: Thank you for keeping the topic of NADH efficacy and toxicity alive. I hope it will contine to make people aware that NADH has little biological actvity when ingested but can cause serious toxic effects. Secondly, PDs and their caretakers will learn more about the misinformation and selection of results by poorly infomed or unscrupulous laboratory workers, manufacturers and dealers use to interpretate their data more favorably than is warranted. What called my attention to this scam were several messages in the digest, earrly on after I joined the APDA in 1995 and read summaries of papers presented in Germany several years ago about the treatment of PD with NADH, DEAE and related compounds. After several hours of searching I realized that the experimnental results in animals, tissue extracxts and clinical testing were done in settings where the obviously prejudiced director ran the clinic, designed the experiments to produce the deired results, selected the data for publication and subsidized the publication of favorable papers: trickle-down all the way, and misinterpretion of the the results to taste. A few members of the audience pointed out deficiencies and inconsistencies with the well establised results from a large literature. NADH and biochemically related compounds are absolutely essential for respiration in virually all aerobic bacteria, plants and animals. Genetic defciencies or deficits in the intracellular utilization of NADH are likely to be lethal. A lack of recovery of response to moderate doses of NADH was probably due to insufficient nucleotide transport into cells. An attractive hypothesis is that specific cell foci in the CNS utilize large amounts of NADH for a critical step in dopamine synthesis or of a cofactor necessary for the control of biosynthetic /biodegradative pathways. of or synthesis of Pwhere NADH reduction is the consequence of NAD oxidation).This oxidation is dependent on uptake of large amounts of precursors of the NAD nulceotides. If uptake is deficient, the cells die. This is what may happen in PD, but at such a slow rate. that the ultimate response, destrtuction of dopaminergic cells, is detectable, but the early steps in the breakdown of the machinery are only slowly detectible and is yet only irregularly observed. However, the hypothesis that NADH can prevent or reduce experimenal PD-like symptoms after adding NADH to the diet or injecting NADH as a treatment of PD is just not supported by the results, whether from yeast or from humans. The two chief reasons why the hypothesis has lead to incorrect conclusions (aside from the practice of sloppy science) are: 1) Whether small or large amounts of the nucleotides are administered, all of the dose will be metabolically inactivated within seconds to minutes after administration. Insufficient NADH reaches vital targets. There is no mystery here. Membrane transport of nucleotide and nucleotide precursors is now a very active area of research, certainly an important way to look for candidates as anti- PD agents. Determining the relevance of results from one kind of experiment in single cells to whole animals, requires rigorous deductive reasoning, such as a working knowledge of the dynamics of drug distribution and neuroelectrophysiology. Too many times is my credulity shatterred when presumably well-trained and knowledgable scientists can be so fooled or fool themselves. I have been long-winded, but the kind of research that is practiced here `needs more rigorous involvement of competent and reliable scientists therwise the work becomes trivial and wasteful, and sometimes leads to murder by ignorance. I therefore strongly agree with the recent correspondence on DEAE in the PD e-mail. Parkinsonianssmust not lose hope or give into what is popular for the moment. We will find better therapies and sooner or later cures for PD, but phsicians and scientists must remain critical and skeptical or we will have to deal with alot of lost hope. With best wishes from Steven E-mail [log in to unmask] Steven E. Mayer, Ph.D.