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Hi Kees: I read your interesting letter. I also spend a lot of time on IRC Chat channels usually playing games. Playing games on my computor seems to lift me out off an off period faster than any other activity. My Chat nick is Duke^.. What is your net nick name and where do the PD people gather to talk. If I'm on line chating I can be found on #civnet or #netgaming. Dale Severance [log in to unmask] PS I also used to play the trumpet