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When I re-read my message I realized that it really sounds facetious & I really don't mean it that way at all. I'm sorry I have not kept your email address so I might send this to you personally. Since you and Kees & my friend Hein all live in Holland and you don't refer to it as the Netherlands, then I feel we should include Holland in our count. IMOHO. I wish my ability to speak Dutch was half as good as your ability to converse in English. When I was a child my Mother's parents spoke German, but I can only remember a few of the words now. Please keep emailing as I always read all your posts. I find them honest, professional, and to the point. I think that it is really hard to put in black & white what you really mean, but you seem to have that gift. As Ever, Marjorie Moorefield just another librarian (with PD)