For Tammy AND any other new members--if you have questions that may have been discussed before (and believe me, most have been :-) ) you can get the earlier posts from the list archives. Here's how to do it: send email to--<[log in to unmask]> put "archive search" as subject This is our faithful archivist, John Cottingham, who can help you find those informational messages. Give it a try! (Diabetes is there) Camilla Flintermnn,CG for Peter, 78/7,Ohio