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I found my tool bar lurking on the screen with just enough showing to drag it back to its proper position. Thanks it was driving me nutter than i am. Joe I respect your opnion but disagree with you as follows: Of course anyone could go directly to archives or any number of places to get PD information. But this channel is much more than that. It gives us a chance to interact with other people with similar problems. As we withdraw socially, ( and it is happening to all of us) from the non PD world our chances to be hear and be sociable diminish to the point were we are lead around by hand, fed and hygienically cared for by others in a world where we can barely talk. This channel has given me hope that I can stay communicable with others at least with people who are simliarly fated. You have become a family for me as I listen to your stories much as I or you would sit and listen to conversations on all subjects with your family when they gathered together. The antedotes pick up my spirts, I sympothize with Barb as she tries to hook up with IRC and remember my early attemps to hook up or try to labor thu HomeBoy's or Werepup's efforts to teach me a new computer skill. And finally it gives me a sense of worth to try and help the group it matters not whether I succeed or fail I've met so many nice people thru these efforts that have occured he and away from the list. It is like I finally stopped working and can spend more time with my enlarged famly. There really are a lot of people working and pulling for us that get very little recognition for their efforts and ask for so little in return. It hurts me and my famly when a person like Mary Tuchman is criticized by someone who has little or no knowledge of the effort Mary has put forth for PWPD. I'd rather try than be a nay sayer the rest of my life. If Barbara Patterson had said it could not be done or some one else will do it, we would never have this oppoturnity to be socially interactive and engage in this discussion. God Bless all who try to even the smallest extent and to those who can not talk here and remember in our prayers those who are reduced to just sitting and stareing into space Good Night Peace be with you. Dale