SJS, I have been a PD caregiver for more than 15 years. My response to your recent posting to this List was that you are new to 'us' and have not gleaned that we are a thoughtful, caring, yet joyfully irreverent group at times, that you are new to caregiving and overwhelmed by it, and/or that you are experiencing the depression that we all feel at times. Parkinson's IS a serious and debilitating disease, but should we all live our lives as victims of it, or should we approach it as any challenge in life, do the best that we can and find enjoyment in spite of it!! 'The best that we can' is different for each of us. I personally appreciate anybody's efforts to do it their own way - even if it is by trying to activate others to get involved in what you call a 'game'(and it's from a person who is also a serious contributor). Do you honestly believe that we do not understand the seriousness of this disease? Do you honestly think that we don't care about other's feelings? Do you honestly think that we would not do ANYTHING to make it go away? I would be happy to 'talk' to you about how hard it is to see my husband deal with PD, how heroic I think he is, how deep my hurt is at times, how you also must hurt at times, but please understand that we are all trying to deal with it in the best way that we can. I hope Dale does not now retreat from his meaningful participation in fear of offending someone. Kind regards, Susan Hamburger, CG for Stan, 15+ yrs It's a funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it. W. Somerset Maughm