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To SJS: No hard feelings here. I have eaten my fair share of shoe leather when I first got on to the server. gradually you observe that everyone has their own forte with respect to the contributions to the web. The exchange of ideas is an important outlet to many of us here... even to those who perhaps can only read and can no longer type.Some times we et a little hot under the collar but we soon make up. Life is too short and the off periods too long to stay upset. I will have a grass roots fund raiser report about the end of te first week of January.Happy holidadays to you and your special person wth PD. Christmas Eve you are all invited for a glass of egg nog Dale Severance ny &nj [log in to unmask] also known as Duke^ on IRC chart