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Piet Van der Poorten cited "When bad things happen to good people" snip.. author is Harold S.Kushner, the editor is Simon & Schuster, New-York ... second book "When all you've ever wanted isn't enough" is even better. ..those two did have a realistic impact on my life. His ideas have the power to change things. ..at the beginning I was a little scared there would be not only a perceptible culture gap, but especially a different way of handling problems and feelings related to our PD. At this moment I know better, if there is a difference it's only our language..... I'm proud to be a member of this group. Happy New Year to all of you. Piet Van der Poorten (Belgium) [log in to unmask] >>>>> We read and discussed the first book beneficially after the tragic death by auto impact of our daughter. I sense that Piet has learned that goodness is really core value adult responsibility and sensitivity for the individuals who comprise the us of this group - membership of the human race is open to all - yes, caring for self is important - necessary - as is caring for other life - and our collective future progeny which is all part of the group. Piet Hein per recall wrote "Grooks" (I was exposed to the little book in 1968 during a meaningful change event in my life journey) - one was: "I'd like to know what this whole show is all about before it's out" Your name reminded me of it. The event was a sensitivity training intensive experience in which were persons of various ages, male and female, priests, nuns, students, plant managers, housewife, ex-bunny, psychologists, et cetera including me - a young chemical engineer rocket scientist. We are all in somewhat of a shell - or behind walls - afraid that we will not be accepted if we have less than sufficient self-esteem. the essence or core of being adult is participating in the caring about others that eventually includes the aggregate self of human society. thanks for the memory trigger. I suggest Dr. David Burns book, The Feeling Good Handbook, is a good read. (picking a nit, I will relate that Simon & Schuster is "publisher" - not "editor" of Kushner's book.) I, too am proud to be a member of this space-ship earth group. -- ron 1936, dz PD 1984 Ridgecrest, California Ronald F. Vetter <[log in to unmask]> http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~rfvetter