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Margaret, count me in on the "naive list" ---I just skim/delete John Walker's messages, as I don't "do" webs at present. I never thought of the posts as "commercial", just stuff that might be useful to *someone*-- but I DID think there were an awful lot of them! There are other things I usually delete, such as all the stuff about the chat room, again really just for those involved and of no interest to me. Let's start the new year with a big helping of tolerance and a finger on the delete key ? Happy New Year everybody! Camilla Flintermann,CG for Peter,78/7, Ohio