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RON Reiner wrote: Anyway, >you are the first person to do it in writing. I take no offense (I'm used >to it) but I am truly surprised. > Ron, I am very relieved that you are so gracious about my faux pas; I would stop this "bull-in-the-china-shop" routine, but I'm so darn good at it. Besides, it's really the only skill I have that has actually been enhanced by PD. My sincere apologies. Re ALC- I didn't know TwinLabs was selling it. They are one of my favorite sources for supplements. I noticed yesterday that they now have a Brain Protector that includes 1000 mg of ALC along with other stuff. I have been ordering my ALC from Life Extension @ $68 for 100/500 mgs. Just a little cheaper, but you have to order etc which is a hassle. From my reading, the therapeutic dose is in the 1500 mg range, so cutting back may not be a good idea. I am not surprised that it "puts a spring in your step"....it seems to provide energy at the cell-level (kind of like NADH). I have discontinued my use of NADH since starting ALC. Also, it has a cumulative benefit, so periodic vacations are recommended. To NADH users- as a result of the recent patent lawsuit between Menuco, Life Extension, and I don't know who else, apparently they were compelled to do batch testing. I don't know about Menuco, but LE notified its customers of the results, which is that NADH tends to deteriorate VERY quickly. They replaced some of my NADH, which was only a couple of months old, and according to them had lost MOST of its potency. When I used the new batch, I again experienced that "prickly heat" effect that I remembered from the past. So, don't store NADH, apparently it just deteriorates. Cheers, Kathie Tollifson [log in to unmask] 46/8