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The truth of the matter is, Margie, that the patent has run out on gorms so the original maker is no longer producing the product. However, you CAN now buy them over-the-counter at your local health food store. There is also a generic version of the common gorm with comes in 3 strengths. Just remember that the blue one packs quite a whollop! <grin> Barb Mallut "Lil_Honey" on the PD Chat [log in to unmask] ---------- From: PARKINSN: Parkinson's Disease - Information Exchange Network on behalf of Dick Swindler Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 11:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN Subject: Re: Barb's Response to Stan's Insomnia Barb and Joao Paulo - Barb, Barb, Barb. Here we are trying to teach Joao Paulo such useful useful bits of English as "feckless" and "hapless," and you're depriving him of the opportunity to learn "gormless" as well. For shame. While I admit to a vivid imagination, I can't claim credit for gormless. Our British and Australian friends will probably recognize it, although I'm sure it's outdated - it means slow-witted or stupid. Come to think of it, I'd like to triple my order of gorm. Your (occasionally) gormless friend, Margie