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Allan-- a plastic bag on the seat might also be helpful in getting into and out of a car--especially those with fabric upholstery. I'll try it with Peter--thanks for the idea! Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter, 78/7, Oxford,Ohio [log in to unmask] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Ask me about the CARE list for PD caregivers!" * * * * * * * * * * * * * *