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In a message dated 97-02-27 18:17:14 EST, Jeremy Browne wrote << 3. some PWPs just get plain tired, and bedroom acrobatics are well-known as needing a lot of oomph! >> I think, based upon my own experiences, that Jeremy is right on! When I go to bed around 10:00 PM, I am so tired that just breathing is a chore, let alone sex. The only good thing that has happened to me with my PD is it got me out of a lousy job situation with a company in severe transformation. Boyd Highfield [log in to unmask] 55 yrs, PD 2 yrs.