Please have a look at the following x-posting from PERFORM--It looks like a query which some on this list may be able to help. Please copy any responses to Max Harris directly (address below), since he is not a member of this (reed-l) list. Abigail Records of Early English Drama/ Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W Toronto Ontario Canada Phone (416) 585-4504/FAX (416) [log in to unmask] http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html => REED's home page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html => REED-L's home page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html => our theatre resource page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/archive.html => library & archives page ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:28:24 -0500 From: Max Harris <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: PERFORM - Medieval Performing Arts <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Matachines A very good question! The danza de los matachines, not unlike the Morris dance in form, is popular among hispanic and indigenous peoples in parts of Mexico and the southwestern US: see, for example, John Forrest, _Morris and Matachin_ (Sheffield, 1984). The term was first used in a New World context by Bernal Diaz, c. 1550, to describe dancers he had seen at Moctezuma's court. The term is also used, from about the same time, in Spain, Italy, France, and England to describe varieties of sword dancers, buffoons, etc. In Europe, its usage seems to have died out sometime in the late 17th century. Arabic, Italian, Spanish, and Nahuatl etymologies have been suggested for the word and its meaning (as distinct from its referent) varies with the etymology. My question has to do with the relationship between the European and Mexican usages. A single, verifiable use of the word in Europe before, let us say, 1520, would verify the theory that the word (although not, perhaps, the dance) traveled westwards across the Atlantic. But, if there is no such mention . . . . Renaissance Drama scholars may recall the exchange from Webster's _The White Devil_, V, vi: "We have brought you a mask." "A matachin it seems by your drawn swords, Churchmen turned revellers." >> Does anybody know of early European references to Matachines? > >Okay, I'll bite...what IS a Matachine? > >Jesse > _________________________________ Max Harris, Executive Director Wisconsin Humanities Council 802 Regent Street, First Floor Madison, Wisconsin 53715-2610 tel: 608/262-0706 fax: 608/263-7970 http://www.danenet.wicip.org/whc