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Per my original message regarding a PD badge or pin, I've talked with the promo rep who I've used in the past for my business. After getting a cost breakdown from her I called the "American Parkinson's Disease Assoc." to find out if they'd fund the the purchase of the badges for us, and was told that they have their own "American Parkinson's Disease" pin with the motto "To ease the pain to find a cure" on it which they'll be selling in the US soon. (and to heck with the rest of the world's Parkies?) <sheeeesh... how narow minded!> Here's the information on a 1 1/2 in. x 1/2 in. pin/badge: Design: White background, black text reading "Parkinson's Disease," overlaid by an approx. 1/2 in. x 1/2 in. red-circle-with-a-lline-in-it. There's a clear epoxy coating on the top pin which adds dimension and also protects the design from scratches. Cost: 1000 pins @ $1.30 each (US funds) = $1300, plus a $100 "dye fee," MINUS a $130 discount from the promo rep because her grandpa had PD. 2500 pins @ $1.20 each (US funds) = $2200, plus a $100 "dye fee," MINUS a $220 discount from the promo rep. The above does not include shipping and postage charges to YOU should we get the initial purchase of the pins funded by a person or entity. Because of that, the end-user cost of the pins must somewhere in the $4 to $5 range, I'd think IN addition, while I'll be happy to take care of ordering pins/badges from the promo company, I cannot devote the time it would take to send out the pins to the end user, or to do the banking or otherwise handle the monies received for the pins due to a heavy work schedule. Once I do the initial ordering and take receipt of the pins (presuming funding was made available), I would have to pass them on to a person or group who would need to see to the disbursment of pins. etc. SOOOOO.... there ya have it! Barb Mallut [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange On Behalf Of Barbara Mallut Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 1:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN Subject: PD Badge Suggestions Jim S. and All.... While the tulip pins sound "pretty," it sure doesn't convey any message as far as I can see. And those little colored ribbon loops just say "take notice that some anonymous issue is dear to my heart," without MENTIONING the issue at all. Now that MAY indeed cause a few people to ask what our tulip or "loop-thinggee" stands for.... unless we're walking with a shuffling gait, have wild dystonia, have a tremor and/or other unpleasant highly visible signs of there being something wrong with us. THAT would be (sadly) a total turn-off to most whom we'd like to ask us about what our ambiguous badge stands for. To make our job of educating the world a LOT easier, how about a badge that just lets it all hang out and has "Parkinson's Disease" on it, with a small red circle-with-a-line-thru-it? THAT way, it's a definite statement, rather than a wishy-washy unknown symbol? Let's not do it 1/2 way, People!! We're ALREADY virtually invisible to most of the world, so let's not CONTINUE being invisible with such an ambiguous badge that no one's even know what it stands for! OK.... OK.... while I was writing the above, I got on the phone and called the promotions company that I've used in my business. They make literally thousands of promotional items from tiny pins to printed drinking glasses to imprinted CD's, to you-name-it. I've asked for prices on a small rectangle (2 in. x 1/2 in) with a white background, "Parkinson's Disease" spelled out in black, and a small red circle-with-a-line-thru-it overlaid on top text. The rep said she'd have a cost breakdown for me later today and I'll post here on the List as soon as I get the info. LET'S BE V_I_S_I_B_L_E m'friends!! Barb Mallut [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange On Behalf Of James F. Slattery Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 1:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN Subject: Re: Who do you tell? > From: Tim Sanderson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Who do you tell? > Has anyone out there any views on this, or any neat solutions? Wearing a > discreet badge or tiepin would be a good non-verbal signal, and I know that a > neat tulip motif button-hole badge is available. The trouble is that it's > not yet a universally recognised symbol. Perhaps if we all started wearing > one, it would become recognised. I think responding to a question "That's a > interesting badge you're wearing, what does it signify?" might be one of the > most effective and least dramatic ways of making our condition known. Couldn't agree more! For Aussies, there is such a pin available from state Parkinson's offices for $5, attached to a card with an explanation about PD. Money raised goes to PD research. They are co-sponsored by Eli Lilly. Jim