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Joy, You wrote: ---------- > Whilst we do have the lovely tulip badge in Australia, I for one like the > idea of a more activist sort of badge (as well) and I would like to know > what the other Oz folk think. This Ozzie thinks it is not only a great idea but has already spoken to PAN about using their No-PD design. They are happy to see it get as wide an exposure as possible. Re-reading that it occurs to me that between Oz and PAN we 'down under' seem to be involved in a couple of fantasies. No wonder life gets confusing. Oh well, turn left at the first star and then straight on 'till Kanses. Dennis. ++++++++++++++++++++ Dennis Greene 47/10 [log in to unmask] ++++++++++++++++++++