You know Jacob, you mentioned depression and there have been so many books written about depression, especially by some well know authors. I have read them, and can feel the pain in their descriptions, but I have never suffered from depression. My Sister is suffering from it, and she is really worrying me, and all the rest of the family. Thank you for describing it so well. Maybe I will be able to help my Sister more now. AS Ever, Marjorie Moorefield just another librarian, with PD 64/9