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Marjorie, Barbara et al, Thanks for your correction(s) regarding the authorship of the serenity prayer. Why I got St Francis into my mind is beyond me, especially when you consider that marching up to Salidan with a view to converting him to christianity. isn't exactly the mark of someone with the wisdom to know the difference. As for your windmills Marjorie, I too spent years on the dusty plain of la Mancha. Got a lot of bruises, had a lot of fun, learnt some things about life and myself (not all of them good). But most of all I learnt the fighting skills that I now use against a real giant. I also got a lot of practice at picking myself up off the ground and remotivating myself for the next round, a skill which has proved invaluable. Beating PD is not the 'Impossible Dream', but it is damned hard work. Dennis. ++++++++++++++++++++ Dennis Greene 47/10 [log in to unmask] ++++++++++++++++++++