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Ivan, In a message dated 97-06-17 01:38:20 EDT, you write: << Feeling very, very blue and battered, >> And still able to take care of me. Thank you for the suggestion about archives and my lost folder. Ivan, you lift me and challenge me and inform me with your posts. I hope you can dip into that deep well of yourself to get through this bad time as well as possible. Stay open for the best person to come along. The fear is real and well based, but not useful unless it prods to action. When I make jelly I cut the rotten pieces out of the fruit and am still able to salvage what may have looked from the outside as though it was unusable. maybe it's time to make Triple Whammy Jelly. Just think of the market for it! Deanne Charlton [log in to unmask]