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Marling, I may not have finished the patio, but I have been working every spare minute to try to get the house ready to move in, and simultaneously to make the old house saleable, but I just have a mental block about the patio! I keep saying to myself "Don could do it, and he's 18 years older, and has PD, what's my excuse?" SO I am going to ask Don to fly to Miami and finish MY patio! (just kidding...if he makes the trip, I'll make him do a whole bunch of OTHER stuff too!) OK , I admit, I am not even going to ask Don to come here!!! Ken B