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Hi Ken Re your message to Marge (below) you might want to consider another category too - those who took demotions before leaving the work field - due to PD. I used to investigate labor/wage violations under a fefderl statute which required alot of my time e out on the worksite. Here is Arizona, we are a "right to work state" meeaning most worksites I dealt were constructions siites. Eventually it was clear I wouldn't bbe able to keep climbing upscaffolding a and on roofs and the uneven grounf was a dangeer - so I took a voluntery demotion (my ide justto keeko working longer (in an office supervising Personnel for or 3 airorts). Maryhelen == In a message dated 97-07-20 08:41:17 EDT, you write: << : [log in to unmask] (Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN) Margie, I wonder if there are accurate numbers for how many people are in jobs paying substantially less than prior jobs, not by choice. I am not talking about windfall situations, where someone gets an exagerated amount for a special project for a rich relative, for example. A god example would be an person who was a manager, got laid off and now works on an assembly line, or other non-management position, so he can pay his bills. Ken B >>