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In a message dated 97-07-23 03:07:50 EDT, you write: << Don, PLEASE feel free to contribute whenever and whatever you like! If anyone else minds, we'll beat them on the head with patio blocks! (In case you don't have any left over, I'll hit them on the head with old green shag carpetting and tackless strips. THAT will shut them up for awhile!)(grin) Ken B >> And if that doesn't work I have some rubber tubing that I use in my aerobics class... DON....KEEP POSTING!!! Sue, daughter of Rocky