Several recent posts to this list have been complaints, not complaints about the list, but complaints about our common condition, Parkinsons. The person complaining often sounds half-apologetic about his or her condiion. Taken all in all this list has well over 1000 PWP in various stages of affliction, from the trembling green recruit clutching for any word of assurance that things won't really become as bad as rumor has it, to the grizzled and battle weary veterans who know the truth first-hand. And yet, the number of posts complaining about our situation, bleak as it may be, are relatively few. Are we really that brave or stoical? We all know with cetainty that if we do complain we will be buried under an avalanche of sympathetic replies, both public and personal. We turn no one away. Yet personal physical complaints are sufficiently scarce that I have left my self imposed silence to comment on the matter. One of the important messages the list and its membership continually reinforces is that there is life after diagnosis. The world doesn't end with the bad news. As Dolly Parton sings (with Billy Dean) "You got me over a heart ache tonight..." She's singing about a romantic crisis, but we all could sing of this list and its members "You got me through a hard time tonight, today, this week, ...." The Brian Collins's, Camilla Flinterman's, Charlie Meyer's, Margaret Tuchman's, and the many helpful Barbara's, to name a few, but not at the cost of slighting any not named, have found a new avocation in helping all of us. The recent few complaints have concerned sleep or the lack thereof. I personally wake up every two hours or less to take my personal sanitary plumbing to the bathroom. If my bladder were better, however, my sleep would be less restful than it is. I don't move or turn over in my sleep and more than two hours in the same position (left side, right side, or back) would cramp my muscles so that I might have difficulty getting my plumbing to the bathroom in time. All things work together for good !?! As for the other uses of personal plumbing: when my neurologist asked me if I had any problems with my genitals, I said "no," except that they don't work anymore. He smiled at my answer. By the way to pursue this to its bitter end; my prostate is very small for a man my age, so the cause of my problem can be laid entirely at Dr. Parkinson's door. I guess its nice to know. End of personal confession. My final words, for now, concern time. If there is any single symptom I would call characteristic of my PD it is my altered perception of time. Time just doesn't pass more slowly or more rapidly; it is just out of control. "Hours creep. Days fly." My body is enslaved to a rigid pill schedule which is not capable of comfortably regulating my symptoms. Does anybody have any wisdom for me? George Andes 63/15 and counting