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Barb,
Good observation, and I agree - Ed has NO tremor but does have the
phenomenon you all are describing, I think; in fact, sometimes his arm
will feel like there is a electrical buzzing going on that I can feel when
I put my hand on it.  Interesting...

Linda B.(Ed, 50/4)
Columbia, MO
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On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Barbara Mallut wrote:

> Larry and "All"
>
> I find it interesting that those of us who have "internal shakiness" don't
> seem to have a VISABLE tremor.  Periodically I've used that term in describing
> how I feel to various MDI and the ONLY ones who indicated they knew at ALL
> what I referred to was Dr. Robert Iacono (movement disorder specialist at Loma
> Linda University Hospital and the neurosurgeon who did my pallidotomy) and the
> new neuro (NOT a movement disorder specialist) I saw recently at Kaiser.
>
> Every other MD I've seen over the years has hotly denied that there even IS
> such a thing as "internal shakiness" or "internal tremors," and IF there is
> such a thing (which they insist there isn't!) it's not related to Parkinson's!
>  And reading your messages here has merely confirmed to me this IS a
> PD-related symptom.
>
> That said - WE know there's such a critter as "internal tremors," 'cause we
> HAVE 'em, and we have 'em in correlation to having Parkinson's!   SO THERE,
> ALL YOU MDs! <rueful grin>
>
> Barb Mallut
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> From:   Parkinson's Information Exchange on behalf of Lawrence Fleming
> Sent:   Sunday, September 14, 1997 7:01 AM
> To:     Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN
> Subject:        Internal Shakiness
>
> Mary,
>
> Before I was diagnosed I also experienced an internal shakiness.  I attributed
> it to anxiety and my GP prescribed a beta-blocker (the kind that entertainers
> take to ease their stage fright).  It worked great and relieved my tremor.  It
> also lowered by BP.  Unfortunately it did nothing for the rigidity and
> soreness in my arm that soon appeared.  Now I take selegiline and atenolol
> (beta-blocker).  It's an interesting combination and I don't think I've heard
> of any others on the List taking it.
> It does work and on a regular basis I take 25mg/day.  My GP told me to step it
> up as high as 100mg if I'm anticipating a stressful day.  It even slows my
> tremor after exercising for long periods.  Are any others taking a
> beta-blocker?
> Larry Fleming
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Parkinson's Information Exchange  On Behalf Of Mary Legan
> Sent:   Friday, September 12, 1997 8:46 PM
> To:     Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN
> Subject:        Internal shakiness
>
> I'm glad this topic has been brought up, as I too have very much wanted an
> explanation of this phenomenon.  I experienced this before my PD diagnosis,
> when I described it to my neuro (who was treating me for migraines & insomnia)
> as an "internal revving motor..........at that time I was taking a low dose of
> Sinequon with Xanax......then the Xanax was replaced with Buspar (needless to
> say, my "anxiety" didn't improve).  At that same time, I was experiencing hot
> flashes, etc. because of menopausal hormonal fluctuations, which may or may
> not be relevant.  When I then received the pd dx, I was started on Sinemet,
> Paxil, & Trazadone (for sleep).  No further problems with internal shakiness
> until several months ago.  At the time I was taking estrogen & progesterone, &
> having severe daily migraines. Also, the internal revving was happening again,
> & a difficulty which I don't remember having before - the need to breathe
> deliberately & deeply.  After some ado, I discontinued the hormones ~6 wks
> ago.  The migraines have shown moderate improvement, but the other symptoms
> remain.  I'm hoping that soon whatever confounding effects the hormones have
> contributed will be out of the picture.  It will make things much easier if
> whatever symptoms remain can clearly be tied to the pd.  Perhaps one or more
> of our list members can at least explain the internal shakiness, for my
> benefit & for the others who experience this.
> Explanations of the other issues I mentioned are also most welcome!     Mary
> Legan 55/5+
> <My mother  Joyce (68/6 months) changed doctors recently. She was taking
> 25/100 Sinemet 4.5x/day, .25 Permax 5x/day, 10 mg. Paxil 1x/day. Her new
> doctor wanted to reduce the Sinemet a bit and start her on Eldepryl. This
> required her getting off the Paxil. About 4 days ago, she stopped the Paxil
> and started feeling shaky inside-a nervousness that wouldn't quit. She decided
> today to continue the Paxil again (she hadn't started the Eldepryl) and felt
> better. She suspects this internal shakiness/nervousness is a side effect of
> the Permax. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone had a similar sensation? Was it
> related to a particular drug. Thanks.
>
> Debbie White
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