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On Mon, 6 OCT 1997 17:13:35 -0400, Kathryn Holden wrote: If you want to try a 7:1 product right away, you can make a good shake with Ensure (much easier to find): Hello Kathrynne, I would have thought that that a good shake was the last thing Stan would want! (I couldn't resist that) Regards, -- Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>