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Barb & Ivan Maybe I am out of date (79+) but___my wife(77/20) occasionally has the "girls" in for bridge. She is not the youngest - others are 93, 83,82, 70. My daughters - 50, 48 refer to themselves and their friends as girls and their daughters 13, 24,26 do the same. My feeling is that any female of the species particularly younger than me is a girl. Or are Ivan's feelings a regional thing. For those of you unfamiliar with New England culture they have some interesting, sometimes strange and often entertaining colloquial customs. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Mallut <[log in to unmask]> To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]> Date: Friday, October 10, 1997 3:06 AM Subject: Re: Display of poor taste >Heck, Ivan... my MOTHER still calls me a "girl," and I think of myself as that >also. What IS the big deal, huh? > >Ivan, Ivan, Ivan! Sheeesh! Come ON, m'friend! There's some REALLY >important issues that need addressing by a concerned public... like, for >instance the Udall Bill... so why nit-pick and waste all that energy and that >fine mind of yours on such a "non-issue?" > >Barb Mallut >[log in to unmask] > >---------- >From: Parkinson's Information Exchange on behalf of Ivan M Suzman >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 11:13 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN >Subject: Display of poor taste > >^^^^^^GREETINGS FROM^^^^^^^^^^ >Ivan Suzman 47/10 [log in to unmask] >Portland, Maine land of lighthouses 60 deg. F warm >*********************************************************** > >On Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:28:43 -0400 "B.Bruce Anderson" ><[log in to unmask]> writes: >>Ken must be on vacation. (Just kidding, Ken) >> >>Actually, what we need is a good controversy. Darn, I just can't >>think of >>any..... >> >>---------- >>> Subject: girls >>> >>> How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? >>> >>> One to change the bulb, one to complain that the bulb is violating >>the >>> socket, one to secretly wish she were the socket, one to secretly >>wish >>she >>> were the bulb, while the last one gets all charged up and turned on >>> watching the others. >> >> >>I think I'm going to pay for that. > >Bruce and list, > >To call women "girls" is incredibly out-of-touch with modern attitudes!!. > I know you're trying to be playful and arousing, but as a man who tries >to be conscious of fairness, I really oppose your posting this kind of >joke! > > >It is very disrespectful of women. > >Signed, > >A male in support of equal rights and opportunities for women. > >IVAN SUZMAN 47/10 >> > >>> An explorer in the deepest Amazon suddenly finds himself surrounded >>by a >>> bloodthirsty group of natives. >>> > >Here we go with racist junk again. > >>> Upon surveying the situation, he says quietly to himself "Oh God, >>I'm >>> screwed." >>> >>> There is a ray of light from heaven and a voice booms out: "No you >>are >>NOT >>> screwed". Pick up that stone at your feet and bash in the head of >>the >>chief >>> standing in front of you." >>> >>> So the explorer picks up the stone and proceeds to bash the living >>shit >>out >>> of the chief. >>> >>> As he stands above the lifeless body, breathing heavily and >>surrounded by >>> 100 natives with a look of shock on their faces, Gods voice booms >>out >>again: >>> >>> "Okay ..... NOW you're screwed." >>> >>> >Bruce and listmembers, > >To use the word "natives," and to choose such a joke to post, >represents an unacceptable attitude. > > Bruce, I am APPALLED that you would choose to publish such trash. A >person of mostly African ancestry, and one of our greatest PWP heros, >Muhammad Ali, is one of our very best representatives for curing >Parkinson's!! > >Sexism, racism and homophobia have no place on this list, or among the >world community of PWP's. > >Bruce, please find a new type of joke to publish--or else, don't bother. > >Thank you > >Ivan Suzman 47/10