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Ivan-- somehow I had missed those "jokes"--lucky me! I am in unity with your admonition /request to Bruce, who I expect did not intend the disrespect that the "jokes" evidence---I used to think some things were funny which now apall me! :-( Live and learn--or get your consciousness raised, maybe? Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter, 79/8, Oxford,Ohio [log in to unmask] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Ask me about the CARE list for PD caregivers!" * * * * * * * * * * * * * *