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^^^^^^GREETINGS FROM^^^^^^^^^^ Ivan Suzman 47/10 [log in to unmask] Portland, Maine land of lighthouses deg. F *****Dear Anne, Mary L., Earl and List, Somehow, while reading Anne's wonderful, step-by-step explanation of the PBM(plastic bag method), tonight's caregiver, George, and I, got a chuckle out of this line: gently push & tug until bum is close to edge of seat >hope this helps >Anne Rutherford 62/dx1980 >