Automatic digest processor wrote: > > There are 22 messages totalling 5244 lines in this issue. > > Topics in this special issue: > > 1. Please STOP filling the PD Digest with LENGTHY UNREADABLE CODE!!! (3) > 2. Martial arts and PD. > 3. Answers to prayer for Mel > 4. Pictures,Pictures,Pictures! + More > 5. Stan's Pallidotomy > 6. Anything in toenails? > 7. Robert Langer Meds > 8. Drug Trials -Reply (2) > 9. Peter's neuro-clinic visit > 10. Photography tips/Photos of Phila. > 11. Glossary & Humor > 12. Pictures,Pictures,Pictures! > 13. Selegiline -Reply (2) > 14. Introduction > 15. Mirapex or not > 16. Possible Mirapex Problem? > 17. seligiline-reply > 18. PHOTO > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:16:05 -0500 > From: David Moreland <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Please STOP filling the PD Digest with LENGTHY UNREADABLE CODE!!! > > At 02:26 PM 10/27/97 -0500, SJS-OnTheNet wrote: > >***** To All: ***** > > > >I would like to request that ANOTHER method-- perhaps a "PARALLEL > >LISTSERV" (perhaps call it "PD Digest-II") -- be established to carry all > >those pages upon pages of ENCODED items that too often (including in this > >past issue) FILL UP the PD Digest! > > > >What a NUISANCE it is to have to scroll past pages & pages & yet more > >pages of CODE, just to see if there's any useful humanly READABLE material > >posted! > > > > Why don't you just use the delete button for those pages & pages & yet more > pages. > > Yours and His > > David L. Moreland > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:29:59 -0500 > From: David Moreland <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Martial arts and PD. > > Listers, > Has anyone on this list used any martial arts techniques to provide at > least little snippets of relief for PD symptoms? My speech threapist > suggested this topic to me because she is doing some research in this area. > > Yours and His > > David L. Moreland > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:49:35 -0500 > From: Mary Ulmer <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Answers to prayer for Mel > > Four nights ago I was very despondent over Mel's going on Dialysis. He is > back home and Dialysis has been delayed due to a better Creatinine Clearance > test. Maybe in 2 months he might start dialysis but who knows, maybe never.. > Mel had asked for a "small miracle"---he got a bigger one. We have felt the > concern of many friends including our cyberfriends. > We received many posts of your support and promise of prayers. We read each > and were strengthen by them. > I plan to post off the list to each reponse--hope i don't leave anyone out. > We were overwhelmed with the response and certainly feel your prayers were > answered. Thank each of you very much. Things look much brighter and of > course with some time to reflect, there are worse things than dialysis--just > another hurdle in this life adventure. > Love from both of us > Mary and Mel Mary CG for Mel 76/11 [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:03:03 -0500 > From: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Pictures,Pictures,Pictures! + More > > Hi...about pictures/attachments.. Some of our members are limited by > their service providers as to the size of emails they can receive. Most > graphics files are quite large. Multiply the size of one file x the > number of files sent and we would definitely all have problems. > Distributing the one file today caused numerous error messages. (Those > of you who did not receive the picture file...your server bounced it back > to me as an error file.) Also, I don't own a scanner and would have no > way of handling the picture files so that sort of shoots down the idea > that I would distribute the files. Sorry about that. For the time > being, we will just have to imagine what each other looks like... > > About attachments...many of our members do not have the skills to extract > these...on some systems there are many, many steps to this process. > That's why I have suggested sending the message as plain text. (The KISS > principle.) > > About the way the messages are compiled for the digest...this is all done > by the listserver at UofT...since this entire service is offered free of > charge by UofT.... BTW...those 'list funds' that were mentioned in a > previous message..there aren't any. UofT allows us to use their system > free of charge and I volunteer my ?free? time as do John Cottingham and > Camilla and all the others who help. I guess you could call it all a > 'labour of love' or a truly grassroots movement. The only payment I > receive is the knowledge that info about pd is available to all who want > or need it and that none of our members need to feel alone...not with a > 1600 member cyberfamily. > > One more reminder....please do NOT include the entire message to which you > are replying. One reason is that it is not necessary and unnecessarily > clutters up the list. Another reason is that, if you include the line in > the original message that points to the parkinsn list, sometimes the > listserver bounces it back to me as an error message (looping message). > Sometimes I catch them but with dozens & dozens of error messages every > day, sometimes I don't. So your message never gets posted. > > (To Janet Paterson who plans to move soon from Bermuda to Ottawa, > Ontario, Canada...that region received 30 cm of snow today. :) > > Barb > > ============================================================================ > Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] > HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 > School of Nursing > ============================================================================ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:04:10 -0500 > From: Camilla Flintermann <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Stan's Pallidotomy > > Hey Stan-- that novel sounds promising, and lets hope the nurse has > good sense and gives you the green light for the surgery--best of luck! > > Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter, 79/8, Oxford,Ohio > [log in to unmask] > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Ask me about the CARE list for PD caregivers!" > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:09:02 -0500 > From: Den Gen <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Anything in toenails? > > Keep us posted--it sounds very weird but don't they make jello out of horse > toe nails...hooves!!?? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:09:20 -0500 > From: Mary Ulmer <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Robert Langer Meds > > Hi-Mel has just the opposite reaction with his sleep patterns. He is now > sleeping all night most nights (could be related to his kidney disease i > suppose however). I thinking about changing my night aide on the weekends to > daytime as I now get enought rest myself. > He is on Mirapex .625 three times daily and has cut the sinemet down from 4 > 50/200 CR to 3 sinemet 25/100CR. He has an antsy time around 4-6pm and I > think it may be his 2pm sinemet. > Mary CG Mel 76/11 [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:16:37 -0500 > From: Jeff Jones <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Please STOP filling the PD Digest with LENGTHY UNREADABLE CODE!!! > > At 02:26 PM 10/27/97 -0500, you wrote: > >***** To All: ***** > > > >I would like to request that ANOTHER method-- perhaps a "PARALLEL > >LISTSERV" (perhaps call it "PD Digest-II") -- be established to carry all > >those pages upon pages of ENCODED items that too often (including in this > >past issue) FILL UP the PD Digest! > > > >What a NUISANCE it is to have to scroll past pages & pages & yet more > >pages of CODE, just to see if there's any useful humanly READABLE material > >posted! > > > <---- snip ----> > > I have, in the past, subscribed to a number of ListServs and received my > mail in digest form. My research into this issue pointed toward a > "feature" of Microsoft's mail package (Microsoft mail). The encoded > information, to my knowledge is not at all within the control of the > ListServ program. It is freely tendered by the mail program. I suspect > many of you find oddly encoded files in your mail program's download > folder, or wherever attachments are saved (unless you delete them). The > fix is at the source of the mail, not the ListServ. The MS mail program > can be modified via the options to prevent the extra mail, but I don't > remember how because I don't use that package. The bottom line, page down > quickly, or set your mail in the parkinsns List to NoDigest and deal with > the encoded messages individually. > > Take care, > Jeff Jones, PT CG for Becky > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:14:37 -0400 > From: Stephan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Drug Trials -Reply > > On 10/24 Brian Collins wrote: > >>>. . . Remacemide . . . drug trials in the U.S. . . . . anyone > taking part in a trial?<<< > Hi Brian: > One of the 10+ centers conducting a clinical trial of > remacemide hydrocholride is The Columbia-Presbyterian > Medical Center in NYC. The study will last 6 weeks. > Researchers report that this medication inhibits the > glutamine cells of the basel ganglia (the center of motor > control of the brain). Researchers are trying to determine if > remacemide can alleviate the typical "wearing off" effect after > the optimum dosage of the medication has passed peak > dose. > Glutamate is an amino acid which causes nerve cells in > the brain to be more active. PWP experience a decrease of > dopamine in the brain which causes increased activity in the > subthalamic nucleus. The increase in neural activity in turn > causes tremor, and stiffness. Researchers believe that > increased glutamate activity may be toxic to nerve cells. > Remacemide is considered a glutamate antagonist which > will block the glutamate effect and thereby enhance the > levodopa effect. > Patients chosen for the study must be sensitive enough > to their condition that they can differentiate between an on or > off period while on levodopa. > I will not be participating in any study. Good luck. > Stephan 53/7 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:10:51 -0500 > From: Camilla Flintermann <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Peter's neuro-clinic visit > > Friends--you may recall that we were going to see a "genuine movement > disorder specialist" at the Aring Neurological Institute, U. of Cincinnati, > having given up on our other neuro after the MIRAPEX debacle. The appt. > was today, and went very well. We are to try REQUIP (Ropinerole) instead > of Mirapex again, but at a very slow rate in titration--about 1/3 of the > schedule recommended by the manufacturer. Dr.Samaha mentioned that in > older patients the introduction should go more slowly, while for younger > ones the usual schedule works OK. He also confirmed that Mirapex is known > for having considerable degree of hallucinations. We are to work our way up in > dosage gradually,checkimng with him if there are serious side effects, and > return in 3 months. Peter liked him, and I'm so glad we went,despite the long > trip. That clinic, BTW, started last year to do pallidotomies, using the > "mapping" technique learned at Emory, I believe. > So tomorrow we start REQUIP, and thanks to Ernie for sending us the info > re: his experience with it, which was encouraging. Dr. S. agreed that > we should not expect any changes/improvement at the lower doses, just as > Ernie said. > BTW, they are printing in their neurology dept. (u. of Cincinnati)ews- > letter an article I wrote re: the PD and CARE lists, so we may get some new mem > bers! > > Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter, 79/8, Oxford,Ohio > [log in to unmask] > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Ask me about the CARE list for PD caregivers!" > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:09:50 -0500 > From: Carol Horner <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Photography tips/Photos of Phila. > > --WebTV-Mail-2096224377-4833 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > For those of you who might be interested in photography, you might like > to look at the photographs at this Philadelphia newspaper site. My > neighbor is a photographer for the Philadelphia Inquirer and these were > featured in the Sunday Magazine of the paper a few weeks back. > > There are thirteen photos and all but the last two or three are great. > Hope someone enjoys them! > > Carol Horner > > --WebTV-Mail-2096224377-4833 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; > X-URL-TITLE="http://www.phillynews.com/packages/photog/index.html"; > CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > http://www.phillynews.com/packages/photog/index.html > > --WebTV-Mail-2096224377-4833-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:08 -0500 > From: KEn Becker <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Please STOP filling the PD Digest with LENGTHY UNREADABLE CODE!!! > > Why don't we all just make 1500 copies of a self taken picture, and send one > to every other person on this list? JUST KIDDING!!!!!!! Ken B > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:42:39 -0500 > From: KEn Becker <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Glossary & Humor > > Don, those were pretty good stuff, here are some in return: > "It is better to be strong, healthy and rich, than to be weak, sickly and > poor." > "Keep your chin up...........so you can kicked in the neck!" > "It was a terrible tragedy, but it could have been much worse, it could have > happened to me" > Inspirational words by ME! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:40:42 -0500 > From: Stephan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Drug Trials -Reply > > 10/27/97 > Brian: > On 10/24 I posted the message below to the Parkinsn > list, but I have not seen it . . . did you receive it? > Stephan 53/7 > On 10/24 Brian Collins wrote: > >>>. . . Remacemide . . . drug trials in the U.S. . . . . anyone > taking part in a trial?<<< > Hi Brian: > One of the 10+ centers conducting a clinical trial of > remacemide hydrocholride is The Columbia-Presbyterian > Medical Center in NYC. The study will last 6 weeks. > Researchers report that this medication inhibits the > glutamine cells of the basel ganglia (the center of motor > control of the brain). Researchers are trying to determine if > remacemide can alleviate the typical "wearing off" effect after > the optimum dosage of the medication has passed peak > dose. > Glutamate is an amino acid which causes nerve cells in > the brain to be more active. PWP experience a decrease of > dopamine in the brain which causes increased activity in the > subthalamic nucleus. The increase in neural activity in turn > causes tremor, and stiffness. Researchers believe that > increased glutamate activity may be toxic to nerve cells. > Remacemide is considered a glutamate antagonist which > will block the glutamate effect and thereby enhance the > levodopa effect. > Patients chosen for the study must be sensitive enough > to their condition that they can differentiate between an on or > off period while on levodopa. > I will not be participating in any study. Good luck. > Stephan 53/7 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:57:12 -0500 > From: KEn Becker <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Pictures,Pictures,Pictures! > > Liz, I got the message, no pictures, or files???? Did you send me the Barbie > Doll > jingle, if so we enjoyed it, if not it was other Liz, so never mind (grin)Ken > B > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:43:38 -0500 > From: Stephan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Selegiline -Reply > > Brian: > On 10/24/97 I posted this note to the Parkinsn list, but I > have not seen it. Did you receive this message? > >>>Hello Brian: > >>> Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> 10/23/97 > 07:43pm >>> wrote: > >>>OK, I give in. I promise not to write against selegiline > ever again (Well, not this week anyway). I had hoped to have > a friendly debate about Selegiline: Dennis had volunteered to > referee, and he seemed to be fairly impartial (- At least, he > seemed to have an equal number of chips on each shoulder) > But it all got too personal<<< > > Hey Brian, I'll play! I believe the subject is "Why take > Eldepryl (Selegiline)?" > Any special rules? Dennis Greene need not absent > himself from the multilogue . . . I'm certain you'll conduct > yourself like the Peer you are. Okay, here goes: > Eldepryl is considered to be a selective MAO-B inhibitor > prescribed by some neurologists to prolong the effectiveness > of levodopa and reduce motor fluctuations and by other > neurologists in an additional attempt to slow the > degeneration of brain cells. I have not read anywhere that it > is touted as a "cure" for PD. But, neither is levodopa. > Dr. Duvoisin, M.D., in his book "Parkinson's Disease," > 2nd ed. states that adding Eldepryl to the meds is the > equivalent of increasing levodopa by about 20%. > Several recent studies (some of which were posted on > this list by Janet Paterson) have concluded that therapy with > Selegiline offers beneficial, long-term effects on the > progression of PD. > However, researchers have not been able to isolate the > mechanism that is at work. It can be neuroprotective, > symptomatic or even restorative. Most neurologists believe > that they can only perceive a symptomatic effect, with little > evidence to support the theory that it is neuroprotective. > Notwithstanding, Eldepryl has an important symptomatic > (improvement in motor fluctuations) and levodopa sparing role > in the treatment of PD. > The effects of Eldepryl upon the parts of a human nerve > cell that are susceptible to premature death are being > studied. Dr. Gerald Cohen, at the Mount Sinai Medical > Center in NYC, is studying the connection between the mao > enzyme and damage to a cell's mitrochondia (energy plant) > and PD. He is trying to determine if desmethylselegiline ( a > result of the breakdown of selegeline) has a neuroprotective > effect on the nerve cell. > So, what's the rumpus? When I first sought treatment > for PD (7 years ago this Christmas Eve, oops! wrong story) > my neurologist prescribed Inderal ( a beta blocker) which > reduced my tremor considerably for 12 months. Then as PD > progressed and I lost the symptomatic effect of the Inderal, > he prescribed Eldepryl. Again, the tremors were reduced > and my gait improved for about 12 months when I began > Sinemet. Its been Sinemet and Eldepryl for the past 5 years > and I have not experienced an increase in my PD symptoms. > My time's up - your turn. > Stephan 53/7 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:07:26 -0500 > From: Nancy Vanhook <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Introduction > > I am new to the list and have been lurking for a while here in snowy Iowa > where it was 15 degrees this morning--breaking a record set in 1942. Thanks, > Colorado, for sending the snow our way. Next time you may keep it. It is > only October! > > It has been fun getting to know all of you and seeing how supportive you are > of each other. Your humor is also enjoyed. I am 54/5 and have drifted > along with my parkinson rather slowly, I believe, considering that I've had > three moves (one to Germany), gone through empty nest, lost my dog and two > birds, and done lots of travel during the last five years. > > I started on Eldepryl right away and had lots of trouble adjusting to it. I > went down to a half pill twice a day and slowly worked up to two pills a > day. After two years I started on Madopar and switched to Sinemet in the > states. I now take two 5 mg of Eldepryl and two Sinemet CR 25/100 per day. > But, it doesn't seem to be enough. I need something more for cramps/curling > in my toes. (Hard to putt when that happens.) Also my right hand is very > stiff. My arm gets very jumpy at movies. I'm not sure if it the excitement > of the show or Brad Pitt. I usually have to sit on my hand. > > I have a good movement disorder doctor, but would like some ideas of what to > ask for. I have tried increasing my Sinemet by 1/2 pill, but that doesn't > help. I would welcome any suggestions, commets, jokes or support. > > Nancy Van Hook ([log in to unmask]) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:51:48 -0500 > From: Arlene Walsh <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Mirapex or not > > Hi, Marcia, > Jim 63/14 has been on Mirapex for 8 weeks now. Due to some hallucination > problems I started his therapy MUCH slower than the norm. I increased the > dosage MUCH slower than suggested i. e. 0.125mg every 3 days. I flet that > any adverse reaction wuld not be so severe and I could back away much > quicker. I work all day, so I could not have Jim having a bad day and my not > be here. Jim is up to 3.0 mg per day. His drooling is verturlly gone, his > off times are very much fewer, his cognitive skills not much better, and > speech is no better. But his overall abilities are better including his > sleep. God willing we will continue. Hope this helps. > Arlene CG > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:25:24 -0400 > From: Stephan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Selegiline -Reply > > Hello Brian: > >>> Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> 10/23/97 > 07:43pm >>> wrote: > >>>OK, I give in. I promise not to write against selegiline > ever again (Well, not this week anyway). I had hoped to have > a friendly debate about Selegiline: Dennis had volunteered to > referee, and he seemed to be fairly impartial (- At least, he > seemed to have an equal number of chips on each shoulder) > But it all got too personal<<< > > Hey Brian, I'll play! I believe the subject is "Why take > Eldepryl (Selegiline)?" > Any special rules? Dennis Greene need not absent > himself from the multilogue . . . I'm certain you'll conduct > yourself like the Peer you are. Okay, here goes: > Eldepryl is considered to be a selective MAO-B inhibitor > prescribed by some neurologists to prolong the effectiveness > of levodopa and reduce motor fluctuations and by other > neurologists in an additional attempt to slow the > degeneration of brain cells. I have not read anywhere that it > is touted as a "cure" for PD. But, neither is levodopa. > Dr. Duvoisin, M.D., in his book "Parkinson's Disease," > 2nd ed. states that adding Eldepryl to the meds is the > equivalent of increasing levodopa by about 20%. > Several recent studies (some of which were posted on > this list by Janet Paterson) have concluded that therapy with > Selegiline offers beneficial, long-term effects on the > progression of PD. > However, researchers have not been able to isolate the > mechanism that is at work. It can be neuroprotective, > symptomatic or even restorative. Most neurologists believe > that they can only perceive a symptomatic effect, with little > evidence to support the theory that it is neuroprotective. > Notwithstanding, Eldepryl has an important symptomatic > (improvement in motor fluctuations) and levodopa sparing role > in the treatment of PD. > The effects of Eldepryl upon the parts of a human nerve > cell that are susceptible to premature death are being > studied. Dr. Gerald Cohen, at the Mount Sinai Medical > Center in NYC, is studying the connection between the mao > enzyme and damage to a cell's mitrochondia (energy plant) > and PD. He is trying to determine if desmethylselegiline ( a > result of the breakdown of selegeline) has a neuroprotective > effect on the nerve cell. > So, what's the rumpus? When I first sought treatment > for PD (7 years ago this Christmas Eve, oops! wrong story) > my neurologist prescribed Inderal ( a beta blocker) which > reduced my tremor considerably for 12 months. Then as PD > progressed and I lost the symptomatic effect of the Inderal, > he prescribed Eldepryl. Again, the tremors were reduced > and my gait improved for about 12 months when I began > Sinemet. Its been Sinemet and Eldepryl for the past 5 years > and I have not experienced an increase in my PD symptoms. > My time's up - your turn. > Stephan 53/7 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:12:02 -0500 > From: Arlene Walsh <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Possible Mirapex Problem? > > Barb, > Jim has MUCHO hip problems from the start so It is hard to day if it is > Parkie related. > We just went thru a short course of cortisone - nothing elso helped and some > stuff actually aggravated the freezing problem (weird isn't it). But the > nausea is something we can talk about. I have Jim take some Lysine (500mg) > with each dose. It did seem to with relieving nausea and stomach burning > from the strong arthritis medicatin, so I thought it might help as well with > Mirapex. We haven't had the nausea so far (1.0 mg. 3xper day Mirapex). But > this could be like Lysine keeping away pink elephants.....we haven't seen any > of them either! > Arlene CG Jim63/14 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:12:11 -0500 > From: jim and emily jackson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: seligiline-reply > > I vote to continue the seligiline debate--we personally are at a critical > juncture re choices for treatment, and appreciate the input. > > Brian: what about taking seligiline at relatively low doses vs. high doses > vs. not at all? Jim has upped his seligiline from one to two 5mg tabs > daily, says he thinks it is helping him symptomatically (tremors and > fatigue). No problems with dreams or insomnia. I have seen and heard so > much about the limited-term(5-year) efficacy of sinemet that I tend to > agree with our neuro about waiting to start it, especially as he has a lot > of trouble adjusting to new meds. Jim really isn't too badly off, this > early in the disease. So naturally the purported neuroprotective aspects > of seligiline are VERY interesting to us. The info in your most recent > post surely has made the decision difficult, though: > > >a neurologist who is close to, but not a member of the people who reported > >the story, recently told me that in his view, the various critcisms made > >about the methods used etc, were valid, but if the data are corrected for > >these errors, they affect but do not eliminate the basic scary story.... > >I have also heard from two people who tried to give up Selegiline, and > >found that they couldn't.- Whether psychological or physical dependency > >was to blame I could not say, but there must be a risk of some people > >becoming hooked on it. > > New data which I first heard about while reading the transcript of an > >interview with Professor Olanow makes it clear that the long-term condition > >of people taking Selegiline, compared with a control group showed that the > >early advantage (which was clearly present in the early years) apparently > >evaporates over a 5 to 10 year period. > > So let's keep talking about seligiline. Our original neuro has just moved; > I am saving this discussion to present to his replacement when we see her > next month. Her reactions should give us a pretty good indication of > whether we will be able to work with her (and she with us?). > > Emily Jackson, CG Jim, 69/1+ > Emily Jackson > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:35:14 -0500 > From: Elizabeth Southwood <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: PHOTO > > --PART.BOUNDARY.0.115.mrin46.mail.aol.com.878013312 > Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-type: text/plain > > GIF photo taken this summer - Liz > > --PART.BOUNDARY.0.115.mrin46.mail.aol.com.878013312 > Content-type: multipart/appledouble; > boundary="ad-PART.BOUNDARY.0.115.mrin46.mail.aol.com.878013312" > > --ad-PART.BOUNDARY.0.115.mrin46.mail.aol.com.878013312 > Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-type: application/applefile; > name="Mom.GIF"; > X-Mac-Creator="474b4f4e"; > X-Mac-Type="47494666" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > AAUWBwACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAAAJAAAAVgAAACAAAAAIAAAAdgAAABAAAAAD > AAAAhgAAAAcAAAACAAAAjQABDLAAAAABAAENPQACvVhHSUZmR0tPTgUAA0ACQAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAALB6qziweqs6ewO8WLB6qzpNb20uR0lGAAABAAABC8oAAQrKAAAA5jR8fwc0 > sGEAOLABADo4YAAAOJ0AADi/AABL/+VlO4MAB01vbS5HSUYCAAAAR0lGZkdLT04AAAAAAAAA > AAAAYSQAAEdJRmZHS09OAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAAsHqrOAACvVgAAQywn0AA > QYQACLFhADiDwQA4OH4AAEgAC42AQQAUOGAAAEgAC6WAQQAUOGAAAEgABh2AQQAUQZIALIP8 > ADhIAAutgEEAFHwfGEBBggAYgHwAOEgAAE2AfAA4SAALtYBBABQ4fgAAS//rjYGBAGSAAQBo > fYCBIDAhAGB8CAOmu4H/8E6AAAAAABEQR3JhcGhpY0NvbnZlcnRlcgAAACECUIAAAAADMi41 > Fihmb3IgR3JhcGhpY0NvbnZlcnRlcikAAAEAf///gH+1/8BvW9+gdu31kG1bd4haqKuEdfA1 > /m5RWqpVqBVaatauzn2te7ZW0q1ab6ybtnVRTUp/oAL2boEjunWAgW5qAAC2VwAJbnkAALpu > AAT+fQAAbn4AAl54AAC6fgAEfmwAAG57AQQ+XQiA3neAAD57AED+bqqa/n////5///+Af/// > wH///+B////wf///+H////x////+f////n////5////+f////n////5////+f////n////5/ > ///+f////n////5////+f////n////5////+f////n////5////+f////n////5////+f/// > /n////5////+f////gAABAAA////////////////////////////////AAAAAAAAAAD/rOrq > 6v3QgvuspvteXoPq89D+/enQ/P//AAAAAAAAAP+sgf3Q862IgvuIiFj8rP7q/NH98/2C/yv/ > AAAAAAAA//v7rP2JXoKCXYKCiIOI0P79rKX9rKz/Kyv/AAAAAAD/+qaIgl6JgoNeiF6CgYKI > 0NCB+fus6v8rKyv/AAAAAP+DXYOIgzReXoOJezIkT1WB/qaCgqv8/ysrKyv/AAAA/6ytiINe > XoOmifwz9fUqT0+sgV1eWIL/////////AAD/XoOCiIKCXl58Xiv1BvZVefusWF5Xgl5YXoJY > M/8AAP9eV4Jeg16Dgl5eVgAkKyr2+VheXoNeWFeDgldY/wAA/4KDXq36gl5YXoIs+V35Mvn5 > XYOIiXtegl5Ygl7/AAD/rV6CgoKCgoNe+ayJZDqJZP2DXl6Draxegl6Drf8AAP+JXomIiYKI > Xl5XZDIIMjMziYKDXoleg16CWIKD/wAA/62IiIOtZIOIWDqCCDIzOTkzg4hlgoNeX1heg4L/ > AAD/4K2Cia2Jgl5eV14zCDI5LPldg4KtrIOIg1ddXv8AAP+s4K3+rYL9WDMs9QAHDjMsBvUr > Mqxlgq2JrVhY/wAA/62Cs639iVgy9QAAAAEOMgf1B/YAgoKtif38rYL/AAD/iKxegoKCXvUA > AAAABiwOAPUA9vb2iIJXg1etiP8AAP+tgl6CXoIzAAAAAAAABwAAAAArB/VYiF6Cg4Kn/wAA > /4Jegl6CXvYAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAf19VZee4KtrYL/AAD/rKytglddAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA9iv1 > MoKIp/2trf8AAP+tgqz9XlcAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD1MgD2iNH9p/3q/wAA//3/4IKIAAAAAQAA > APUAAAAAAPb3BwBWra39rf3/AAD/4Oqt31cAAAAG9QAAAPUGAAAAADIrByuIrKf9rf8AAP/q > 6ur9VgAB9QAAAAAAAPUAAAAGKwH19oOt/Yit/wAA/+r+/d9WAAAAAAAAAAD1BgAAAAEyK/X2 > rP7+rf3/AAD//aaJpl71AAAAAAAA9QAAAAAA9fcHAPX86f3grf8AAP/8rYKI+/cAAAAB9QAH > AQf1AAAAMfUA9az9renq/wAA/4n8raaJ+/UA9QcH9ggNMwj1AAAAAAArXK3Q4On/AAD//qaJ > raayggD19fUH9fX1Kwf1AAAAB/hX863R6v8AAP/piaat3634AAAABvUA9fUH9/f1AAD2++qs > 6v7+/wAA/6z9/az9/fn49/dQ9/f391b4Xfn39yv7/un+/ur/AAD///////////////////// > //////////////////8AAAACAA////////////////AAAAAP7//+7u7ruv/vn+7/AAAAD+6e > /uvuu+6f7+/+/PAAAA/t76u52+q++e7u6fzPAAAP3qu7q7q76+793u/8zPAAD62qu7urvAzO > 6e3u/MzPAA/quru6utwMfO672/////APubuqu7sADMfuu767uLzwD7uru4u70AwMy7u7u74b > 8A/ruru7u8vd3Lu6q7u7u/APq6uOur2quzv7u5qLu5rwD6u6q6u9vdzS6rKrq7u68A+rqqq6 > u7zELLuquru7q/AP/76qu7ssHN3Lq5q6u7vwD++qqauwwAzcwMyrqqi78A+u+au8AADMIAwM > 2pqam/AP6ruroAAADcAAwMm7u7rwD+m7u9AAAAwAAMALq76r8A+767sAAAAMAAAMzL2anvAP > rq67AAAAAAAAwA27qarwD+6avQAAAAAAAAzA75qf8A+v++AAAAAAAADMwNqu+vAP/6+wAMAA > AMAADQzJ767wD//+0AAAAAAAAAzACqmq8A//n8AAAADAAADMwM76+vAP7q68AAAAAAAADQAO > n+/wD5q6vAAMAAzAAAwADv7/8A/est - 27 Oct 1997 - Special issue > **************************************************** Please stop sending pictures. We read PD Digest daily and learn much from what other people share, but it takes up a ton of memory to do pictures and forever to open the document, and some of us do not have the capability to convert the code to a photo, so we don't get to see the pictures either. Thanks for your consideration.