Hi Janet, Lets start by taking of our "sunnies", though as you point out it will be difficult for me to have anything other than a green(e) view. I'm glad we are no longer quibling about the language. As you say " if we have this much trouble with english how on earth do people with english as a second language cope?" Onward to your next tangent oh "curious" one (should I call you Alice?). You ask: > why do you suspect that cd is overdiagnosed in pd? Janet, the operative word here is suspect. I have no figures or studies to quote. I do have a destinct impression, formed from 10 years of talking to PWP, carers and neuros, that there is an assumption that PWP are unhappy (and therefore, depressed). This seems to be based on the undeniable fact that with our mask faces we look unhappy. With the incidence of CD within PD already so high (up to 50%) it is easy enough to assume that the sad looking, apparently demotivated ("doesn't seem to initiate anything") individual in front of you is part of the 50%. When you consider that, here in Australia, the average GP will have at most 2-3 patients with PD, they don't get much exposure to the naunces of the condition. In the course of our quible (love that word) I have recieved several off list communications assuring me that CD is a reality. I know it is. I have watched in sadness and fear as someone I love slowly changed from the strong, resulote, competent person I knew, into a fearful, waivering, tearfull wreak. I have seen the relief on their face on discovering that they were the victims of a chemical imbalance and not some inherent character defect. I have watched with joy and wonder the re-emergence of the real person as modern anti-depressants worked their miracle. I know CD from the outside. I know it is real and I know what it can do. Thank God I have never had it, and hopefully, never will. I have however felt great sadness because of PD. I have mourned for the might have beens, cried for the should have beens. I have raged against the injustice, the pure and simple unfairness of it all. And then, in time, I calmed down, decided that I'd better make the best of my situation and tried to do so. Not having CD I was able to make those choices. They are choices I have to continue to make. PD by itself is burden enough for me, I can only imagine what it must be like to carry the extra weight of CD. Dennis. ************************************************* Dennis Greene 48/10 [log in to unmask] http://members.networx.net.au/~dennisg/ **************************************************