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Hi. I'm sorry to hear you got lost. It's easy to do on the web. *grin* You probably found the parkinsons irc chat web page, but I discovered it was a long twisty route. So, I have updated http://rampages.onramp.net/~mgiles/channel.htm http://rampages.onramp.net/~mgiles/pdfriend.htm and http://rampages.onramp.net/~mgiles/ to make the chat easier to find. Hope this helps. Marvin http://rampages.onramp.net/~mgiles/werpup.jpg