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Janet spoke of emotions as separating or distinguishing us from other mammals with the following lines emotions are what separate us from other mammals they comprise the essence of our humanity and i believe that they most frequently are a result of instinctive cognition rather than intellectual cognition so they may seem 'mysterious' at times i observe - perceive - that janet may not have watched the chimpanzees, gorillas, orang utans, and many other of our phylogeny or has not recalled some of what she knows (quoting more from janet) i suspect that the challenge of the mystery is the more you learn the more you learn how much more there is to learn! >perhaps I am lucky to have this budding insight, >some people do not seem to think about life at all, >they somehow seem to take it all for granted. >(Do I make any sense at all?) you make a lot of sense to me i feel that pd has been given to me as a 'wake-up' call and forced me to take a good long look at my life and myself a lot of people don't want to do that because it's a lot of hard work >Hugs to you all, and thank you for helping me. hugs back, and thanks as well the helping here is bi-directional! of course, helping (caring, loving, giving what is needed) is bi-directional "where" are those who love their neighbors as they love themselves when they feel guilt, disgust, remorse et cetera about their self? consciousness cognition-of-self-alive-in-the-homo-sapiens-group-with-verbal-symbolic-abstracting-memory-capability may be a better word-label for the evolving trait that is different in our species that capability is scary if one looks inside to "know thyself" as the ancient greek advised those greeks learned a lot even though it's all greek to me i learned a little latin which rest on greek which rests on phoenician and persian and indian and egyptian and .... i like to learn i like alfred korzybski's book "science and sanity: an introduction to non-aristotlean systems and general semantics because his insights helped me to perceive more clearly he conjectured beyond his knowledge some of that conjecture was not clarified many suppressed what he wrote but his influence still lives ISGS - International Society for General Semantics - Home Page http://www.crl.com/~isgs/isgshome.html attitude is contagious have a good one ron -- Ron Vetter 1936, 1984 PD dz 'paradise is where you make it, not a place to go' e-mail: [log in to unmask] janet paterson http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~rfvetter