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It's amazing to us how many time some symptom pops up in list discussions that David has had for many years that we had no idea was symptomatic of Parkinson's. Just recently these discussions: The need for visual clues at night-David always had to have the light in the garage to go around the corner and open the den door. I never needed it-knew basically where I was and could get there without turning on a light. The skin rashes- seborrhea. David has been treated for that by the dermatologist for many years. Becoming unusually emotional was a recent topic and David was experiencing that. The metal allergy. David can wear only pure metals-gold, stainless steel. Other metals in watches react with his skin and soon literally begin to eat holes in his wrist. (He wears no jewelry except his wedding band and a watch.) I bought him a watch that hangs from his belt for Christmas. He's very happy with it and has no discomfort. Manganese--David was/is exposed to a drier used in paint manufacturing that he calls liquid manganese. It's 6% manganese. I wonder if that is sufficient to cause his parkinson's-or bring it on earlier-or intensify the symptoms ? It seems every week we find more commonalities with other PWP. It's very interesting. BTW, THANKS to everyone for NOT sending all those LONG, LONG posts recently. Reading the list has been much more pleasant lately. Sometimes it's really difficult to read the digest (the only way we could subscribe to such an active list) because there are so many long messages and quoted messages. If one needs to let the list know he has information that might be of interest, he could give a brief summary and give the list the OPTION of writing for the information to be sent privately. Thanks, again, for limiting these long posts. We really enjoy reading the personal messages most. Brenda Moxley cg David 53, 2 [log in to unmask] Birmingham, Alabama