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Jack, and others talking about nursing homes: I spend time working on equipment in n.h., and some of them are so clean you see your face in the floors, and others smell like old caves. Some of them you go into and everyone seems cheerful, from the desk workers to the residents, others are like mental institutions or prisons with everyone complaining and being rude. If I were deciding on which one for me, or a loved one, I would try to spend some time just hanging around, before talking to anyone. [log in to unmask]