Ken, Just to put in my 2 cents worth (20 cents after inflation) -- I agree with you. Those who are enthusiastic over the benefits they have received from a specific product should be able to inform others about it. At the same time, anyone having a vested interest in the sale of said product should indicate so. For instance, I have mentioned several times that I have received substantial benefit from using continuous speech recognition software. When I first mentioned it to the group I am sure I sounded like an advertisement for Dragon Systems, but in my opinion it is the best there is. Now I assume that everyone assumed that I had no ties to that company. I don't but easily could have. Just like the pharmaceutical companies try to get medical professors to push their products, hard/software companies try to get computer engineering/information systems professors to do likewise. Hopefully it is an indication of the trust the people on the list have in me. Were I to have a vested interest in selling a product I would mention that in the beginning and then give a brief summary of the area in which the product could help. (e.g. I have a speech recognition program which can help those who have difficulty typing, even those with speech problems.) I would leave the hype for direct email contact with anyone who responded. Perhaps Barbara could add something to this effect to her list of list rules. Bruce 56/9 Sinemet CR & Mirapex ================== Bruce G. Warr, Ph.D. (C) Healthcare Informatics Laboratory Information Systems Department University of Maryland Baltimore County