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Hey Don, Why the "non pd" rider on your subject line. If that posting wasn't about PD what is? One more question; did you notice if your reflection had as good a time as you obviously did. You wrote about the manager: >of couse it was good adertisment for him. was invided to come back again. As you say it was a good advertisement for him - but he still sounds like good people to me. When you take him up on his invitation please give him a big hello from Western Australia. You also said: > had fun. going to have to get over my fear of going out. found out lot folks > don't make fun of us. The above is a lesson I have to relearn every day. Thank you for making today's tutorial not only easy but also a real pleasure. Dennis. ************************************************* Dennis Greene 48/11 [log in to unmask] http://members.networx.net.au/~dennisg/ **************************************************