> > Hey Jonathan, that's great, now I can understand what you are asking, but > I > > don't understand how you would send "a constellation of stimulation in > time > > and space" or how that puts the PWP in the loop? Hmnn, guess I still > don't, > > Oh well, maybe I'll catch up in my next life' > > > > > > hiya bob c, > > > > no need to wait for the "next life". i'll explain. > > > > electronic impulses currently [no pun] are sent into brain locations at a > > certain "frequency" or time sequence like:" - - - - - -" and a certain > > "amplitude" like: > > > > * > > * * * > > * * * > > * * * * * * > > > > in other words, amplitude is "how much" electricity, frequency is "how > > quick" [or close together] are the bursts. another factor to consider is > > location, where in the brain is the stimulation sent. by locating > > electrodes at several different sights, and broadcasting from more than > one > > point on the electrode surface, it is possible to send a wide variety of > > "patterns" to the brain, to "experiment" or play around with the > > stimulation. > > > > it is possible to represent these different "parameters" or factors > > [sequence, amplitude, location] dynamically in "real time"[like an > internet > > "chat", as opposed to sending letters] with different sound > > charactersistics such as "pitch" "timbre" "sharpness" "loudness" > "duration" > > .... all the things musicians use to vary sound when they make a > symphony. > > linking the data characteristics of a signal [electrical impulse] with > > characteristics of sound is called "mapping". > > > > now, by making the sound pattern audible, the pwp knows what pattern of > > stimulation he is sending to his own brain, and can change it, work with > > it, in various ways until it intuitively "feels right" that puts the pwp > > into the loop. > > > > as it stands [as i understand it] the docs are sending a fixed frequency > to > > a fixed location at a fixed amplitude, and the pwp has no input, no say, > as > > to what patterns his brain gets. > > > > i don't know that this approach would work, but it seems to me worth a > try. > > i mentioned the idea to dr. gary hite at u of stanford hospital during > the > > time my mother was there getting her pallidotomy. but it takes more than > > casual mention to get an idea rolling. not that i think that it should. > > it just does. > > > > i hope that helps, > > > > > > jonathan > > > > [log in to unmask] > > Hi Well Isubscribe to this approach completely as I believe that PD is basically a neuron firing pattern spasm of the brain . Altering the spasm by introducing a new electrical pattern from outside the brain is therefore the obvious way forward . I cannot do brain surgery on myself so I am using electrical pulse stimulation to the skin to stimulate electrical pulses to the brain . I just got ( at Christmas ) a EMS/TENS machine and it has intencity controls as well as different frequencies . I am concentrating on the frequencies 100+Hz as this seems to be one od the missing frequencies . I believe this is basically the frequency used in DBS . One of the effects of PD is stffness of muscles or a lack of tone . Toning muscles is done with the EMS/TENS machine at a frequency 100+ Hz . So many pointers to a 100+ Hz deficiency in the brain . So far I have been able to reduce by back/neck stiffness by 50% . The under arch area of the foot is especial good place to send pulses to the brain . And I use this when I get my RLS as my L-dopa levels drop in the evening . I think it stops it but cannot be sure it will stop by itself after awhile . I am not compleately sure that this improvement is not just wshful thinking . I still have not sorted out a system of continuous electrical stimulation that will allow me to go about my normal day . so this is another field to be explored as is using two or more interfering frequencies . I have also to test fluctuating magnetic frequencies as this should also set up electrical pulses in the brain . I regard myself as a good candidate for tests , as I have PD only in the left side ( right hemisphere is in spasm ) . I would sure like help in confirming results and new idea imputs . I will be posting as I achieve results anyway . Obviously if stimulating the brain's electrical rhythm works and improves PD symptoms fine control of the spasm will probably necessitate the introduction of sensors in the loop that detect beginings of the spasm and activate the appropiate pulse to nip it in the bud . But the first thing is to fully find out the gross effects of electrical pulses on PD before we can achive fine control . As I said before any information would be most welcome to make an overall picture . peace Alastair ( [log in to unmask] )