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Hi folks, I am a newbie on this list. I have a good friend with PD and have been researching the net for places that might be good for her. I have COPD and am so happy to have my list to learn and share with people who have Health problems much like mine. Takes one to know one, it is said. Anyway. Notice reference made to a :"Tape" Can someone e-mail me off list to let us know what it is about. Much appreciated. Sure like what I read and see so far. Hope Cathryn will be on list soon. Thanks, Joyce At 12:00 AM 2/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >There are 14 messages totalling 423 lines in this issue. > >Topics of the day: > > 1. learning to write, AGAIN (4) > 2. $10.00 Video Copies Order Info > 3. Handwriting > 4. $10.00 VIDEOCOPIES / order 'til Feb. 10th > 5. knowing left from right > 6. Today's testimony > 7. NEWS: Non-PD: Congressmen says he worried about e-mail pregnancy (3) > 8. Dirrect Mail Rx > 9. b-12 shots > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:06:34 -0400 >From: "L. Gray Miller" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: learning to write, AGAIN > >At about 4 years into this adventure I realized >that writing was becoming a major problem for >me. I could no longer take meeting notes at >work. I thought about using a pocket recorder but >that had little appeal since I would have to >listen to the entire meeting again. > >So, I decided to teach myself to write with the >opposite hand. I'm naturally right handed and pd >has limited the fine motor skills with my right >side. But, fortunately, my left side is affected >very little at this stage. So I started the >journey to becoming left handed. I have a few >observations that I'd like to pass on to others >that may be in a similar situation. > >I've been at it for almost 6 months and now write >exclusively with my left hand. I can take meeting >notes which has been a great accomplishment. I'm >slower with my left hand than I was before pd >with my right hand but speed is coming. > >I got a theme book for writing practice so I >could see my progress. I began using a pencil. >This is a MUST. Pens are too difficult to start >with since the angle of contact with the paper is >critical with a pen but not with a pencil. > >I made a pact with myself to practice my >handwriting daily regardless of how discouraged I >got. And, initially, I was very discouraged. It >seemed an impossible task. > >I drilled myself on printing upper case letters >then lower case letters (printing, no script >yet) followed my numbers. I did four line of the >upper case alphabet; four lines of lower case >alphabet; four lines of numbers 0 through 9. At >the end of this drill I wrote a half page essay >on any topic. > >Letters were very difficult when I started but >got easier with time. Initially, I had to >experiment to figure out how to write a letter. >I would write the letter right handed, try and >remember the order of the strokes then repeat it >with my left hand. Its not exactly "Rocket >Science" but it took some concentration. > >Script seemed to come naturally as I wrote the >essays. I began printing but slowly a cursive >style just naturally occurred. > >At about four months I realized I was no longer >thinking about letters but, rather, I was >writing words. That was the major breakthrough! >Since then I have shifted to using a pen (which >was very difficult at first) and now write a >full page essay after the same alphabet and >number drills. I continue to practice daily. > >Writing with the opposite hand has helped >immensely. I can now write checks again! Speed is >improving and, most of the time, I can read what >I write. :-) > >Gray >51/4 > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:37:13 -0800 >From: "Claudia J. Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: $10.00 Video Copies Order Info > >--------------B268D8412924CE93A4F884CA >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Greg, > >I e-mailed earlier and said I wanted a copy, but to be sure I'm on the >"official" list, count me in, I'm mailing the check today. > >Claudia Goldberg > >Gregory E. Leeman wrote: > >> Dear List,The process for ordering tapes will be as follows: 1)E-mail >> to Ivan Suzman - [log in to unmask] Greg Leeman >> [log in to unmask] order quantiity and return address and >> e-mail address.2) Make out check for $10.00 to either Ivan Suzman 9 >> Range St., Portland, ME 04103 or Gregory Leeman 3 Walker St., Apt. >> #4, Portland, ME 04102 - You may want to make a notation that it is >> for "Ivan Suzman Video". Videos Remembered has told me 2 Days >> turnaround time, therefore, I would expect to have all orders back >> within 10 days if your checks are prompt.Ivan or myself will post >> again after we chat later this morning. I would like to thank all of >> you for your show of support for own fine young friend, I know from >> talking with him you have made his millenuim or at least his >> week. Thanks Again For Your >> PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Greg Leeman 36/7Portland, ME > > > >--------------B268D8412924CE93A4F884CA >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ><HTML> ><BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"> >Dear Greg, > ><P>I e-mailed earlier and said I wanted a copy, but to be sure I'm on the >"official" list, count me in, I'm mailing the check today. > ><P>Claudia Goldberg > ><P>Gregory E. Leeman wrote: ><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Dear List,</FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>The >process for ordering tapes will be as follows:</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>1)E-mail >to Ivan Suzman - <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>or >Greg Leeman <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>with >order quantiity and return address and e-mail address.</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>2) >Make out check for $10.00 to either Ivan Suzman 9 Range St., Portland, >ME 04103 or Gregory Leeman 3 Walker St., Apt. #4, Portland, ME 04102 >- You may want to make a notation that it is for "Ivan Suzman Video".</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Videos >Remembered has told me 2 Days turnaround time, therefore, I would expect >to have all orders back within 10 days if your checks are prompt.</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>Ivan >or myself will post again after we chat later this morning. I would >like to thank all of you for your show of support for own fine young friend, >I know from talking with him you have made his millenuim or at least his >week.</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Thanks Again For Your PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>Greg >Leeman 36/7</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1>Portland, ME</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> > ></BODY> ></HTML> > >--------------B268D8412924CE93A4F884CA-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:42:25 -0500 >From: "Camilla H.Flintermann" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: learning to write, AGAIN > >Gray--congratulations--that's an inspiring tale of what perseverance can do! > >SNIP >>I've been at it for almost 6 months and now write >>exclusively with my left hand. I can take meeting >>notes which has been a great accomplishment. > > Camilla Flintermann .. [log in to unmask] > CG for Peter, 79/8 ( co-owner of CARE list) > > **__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__** > * * > * "IF THE ONLY TOOL YOU HAVE IS A HAMMER,* > * EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL" * > * ---Abraham Maslow * > **__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__**__** > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:54:48 -0500 >From: Monte Wetzler <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Handwriting > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BD3256.C4B03360 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >It's been about nine months since I have been diagnosed with pd. My = >dominant right side remains unaffected, although my hand writing is = >becoming increasingly illegible. Do any of you have any experience with = >any techniques that may be helpful? > >------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BD3256.C4B03360 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>It's been about nine months since I = >have been=20 >diagnosed with pd. My dominant right side remains unaffected, = >although my=20 >hand writing is becoming increasingly illegible. Do any of you have any=20 >experience with any techniques that may be = >helpful?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > >------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BD3256.C4B03360-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:54:32 EST >From: Barbara Brock <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: $10.00 VIDEOCOPIES / order 'til Feb. 10th > >Dear Ivan, > >You did it! Count me in, of course! Make 1 copy for: > >Barb Brock >4309 Birch Run Drive >Troy, MI 48098 >(248)641-0054 > >Isn't the list fantastic! All the interest and sharing made me proud to be a >member of it. And you know that we're all proud of you, Ivan. Can't wait to >see you and your presentation. > >Haven't heard from Monty Brown yet. > >Sincerely, >Barb Brock >[log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:18:19 +0100 >From: Ida & Andre Kamphuis <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: knowing left from right > >Dear Dennis > >Here is another person who always had to do much thinking to differentiate >left from right >Frequently Andre and I have the following conversation. Andre drives and >Ida reads the map, that, when we are driving south, has to be hold upside >down. >Ida: "Next crossing to the left!" >Andre: "The real left were the thumb is the right, or the other left" >Ida:(after making a few virtual writing movements, taking the virtual pen >in her right hand) "The other left were the thumb is on the real left." >In the end we always arrive at the place were we wanted to go. > >I don't think that the loss of such an isolated capability is indicative >for a broad cognitive decline. The weird thing is that in crossing a street >I don't need any thinking to look first to the left etc. When we cross the >North See, we come in a country (UK) were the traffic keeps to the left. >Crossing a street there one has to start to look to the right. For doing >that I need my cognition, but my automatic pilot keeps enough power to >force me, before starting to cross, irrespective of any cognition, to look >also rather sneaky to the left. > >Ida Kamphuis, Holland > > > >Only I've been that way all my life. >> >>and later: >> >>> You're the first other person I've ever heard of who's mentioned >>having >>> this problem. I'm sort of glad I'm not the only one. >> >>Kathrynne I am happy to be able to report that there are at least >>three of us. A friend of mine of 30 years standing has always had >>difficulty with left and right. > Dennis >> >>************************************************* >>Dennis Greene 48/10 >>[log in to unmask] >>http://members.networx.net.au/~dennisg/ >>************************************************** >> > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Vriendelijke Groeten / Kind regards, > >Ida Kamphuis mailto: [log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:21:29 EST >From: Barbara Brock <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Today's testimony > >Bravo, Jim and Joan. How can we thank you properly for never giving up and >saying it all so well! Even in print, your testimony leapt from the page. We >do appreciate you. >Sincerely, >Barb Brock >[log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:32:42 EST >From: KEn Becker <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: NEWS: Non-PD: Congressmen says he worried about e-mail pregnancy > >I can't believe that woman's ignorance! If she just would wrap her floppy >disks in a condom before inserting them in the drive, she'd have been >protected. Go figure! [log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:04:49 EST >From: Bonnie Rowley <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Dirrect Mail Rx > >Larry > >I saw your post on the PDlist >Here is a link to a pharmacy on-line that I get my Rx mailed to me from. They >are very helpful for me. <A HREF=" http://capc.capc.com/usave/ ">mail >pharmacy</A> > >Bonnie > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:54:27 UT >From: Barbara Mallut <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: NEWS: Non-PD: Congressmen says he worried about e-mail pregnancy > >Ken... I thought the woman was referring to the "pregnancy virus." YOU >know... it gets into your puter via an email, and when ya open the email to >read it :::::poof::::: you're PREGNANT! > >Fortunately, there's a fix for getting pregnant via an email virus - it's >called the "Abortion virus." > >Barb Mallut >[log in to unmask] > >---------- >From: Parkinson's Information Exchange on behalf of KEn Becker >Sent: Thursday, February 05, 1998 4:32 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN >Subject: Re: NEWS: Non-PD: Congressmen says he worried about e-mail > pregnancy > >I can't believe that woman's ignorance! If she just would wrap her floppy >disks in a condom before inserting them in the drive, she'd have been >protected. Go figure! [log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:26:37 -0800 >From: STEVEN EVANS <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: b-12 shots > > My sister has chronic fatigue and is currently taking b-12 shots >twice a week. She claims that they increase her energy level >significantly. I've had PD for over 15 years and during much of that >time fatigue has been a major problem for me . I wonder if these shots >could offer some relief for me? Has anyone out there any experience >with b-12 shots? I would be interested in any information you might >have. > Steve Evans 48/16 > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:06:59 EST >From: KEn Becker <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: learning to write, AGAIN > >Gray, I don't have PD, but I have always had bad handwriting. I write with my >right hand, holding the pen as if I were a lefty. Trying to force myself to >hold the pen differently, yields worse results. I am fairly sure that because >my mother is a lefty, and dad is a righty, I ended up with this, and I just >print anything that needs to be legible. I try to type as much as possible, to >avoid writing. I have always tried to use both hands as much as possible when >I work, so if I ever lost the use of my right hand, I could still manage. >After reading about you writing with the non-dominant hand, in my case, the >left, I tried it, and though it felt strange, I was able to write as legibly >as with my right hand. Thanks for mentioning this, as I feel I may be able to >write better as a lefty! [log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:22:24 -0500 >From: Bob Anibal <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: learning to write, AGAIN > >This thing about right hand-left hand is kind of interesting to me - I was >born left handed but my dear mother was very old-fashioned and switched me. >I have tried to write lefty but couldn't - There are a few things I do >lefty though - I can't deal cards with my right hand - I tried learning >card tricks once and I had to reverse all the directions - Because I was >doing them backward even some experts couldn't tell what I was doing. >Bob Anibal >[log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:28:02 -0500 >From: John Morey <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: NEWS: Non-PD: Congressmen says he worried about e-mail pregnancy > >At 07:32 PM 2/5/98 EST, Ken wrote: >>I can't believe that woman's ignorance! If she just would wrap her floppy >>disks in a condom before inserting them in the drive, she'd have been >>protected. Go figure! [log in to unmask] > >Ken's comment give new meaning to the phrase "protect your data". She must >have an odd machine. I'll bet when she uses her drive, the information >goes in the hard and comes out the floppy, especially if the bytes are >seminal. Plus if it is a young machine, it has been corrupted and the data >bastardized. > >------------------------------ > >End of PARKINSN Digest - 5 Feb 1998 >*********************************** > >