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Greg, you make some good points about the HMO system. It is making the practice of medicine almost barbaric. If you had a car you liked and had it repaired under the same restrictions, it would probably be destroyed in the first few years of ownership. Imagine if you could only have the oil changed after the engine started making loud noises, or the brakes could only be checked after they caused you to have an accident? Sound silly? I agree, so why treat human beings like that? [log in to unmask]