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Jon and Marling, I guess I've learned something. When I made my statements about suicide, I was relating primarily to my own flirtation with it. I was not clinically depressed and never have been - so what do I know about it. Nothing, really, I didn't think, actually. I started out just trying to support the condemnation of a possible exaggeration of the facts - and I just kept on atyping! Need to put a brake on this thing. And I apologize for my language, part of it; not for what I called our Congress! Back to suicide for another thought; I think there has to be a strong cultural taboo associated with it. I suppose you would both disagree