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hi john you wrote: >I got a message that I have no conventional memory left >using Windows 3.1; not even enough to open Windows 3.1. this could be a slightly misleading error message from windows i'm still using version 3.1 [gasp] and find that it has its own 'version' of events sometimes >I need to delete files and programs using DOS 6.22. how did you find out that you need to delete files? how will you be able to use dos 6.22? from a 'f'loppy' disk? >I can not get at DOS help; not enough memory to run DOS help!!! aha! error messages in dos carry a bit more weight than those in windows! sounds like the hard drive is full to the point of groaning to a halt! can you run "chkdsk" [it means check disk in nerdese] from the c: prompt? [i.e. at the c: prompt, type CHKDSK and then press the enter key] it should tell you how much free space you have on the hard drive then maybe you could run "defrag" from the c: prompt [i.e. at the c: prompt, type DEFRAG and then press the enter key] if there is enough memory for this to run it will ask you some questions about preferences and then will try to re-organize the files on the hard drive and rearrange all the little bits of free space [which is probably all you have at the moment] so as to create one contiguous area of free space >Can any one help with suggestions. try the above and good luck i'm sure you'll get lots of help here >I have no manuals for DOS or Windows 3.1. john, john, john!!! tsk, tsk, tsk!!! no R.T.F.M.[Read The Flippin Manual]? once dos is up and running again i strongly recommend using a dos run [like defrag or something better] disk optimizer utility program on a regular basis as bare minimum housekeeping your cyber-sis in nerdling janet janet paterson 51-10 / sinemet-selegiline-prozac almonte-ontario-canada / [log in to unmask]