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Hi Bob, I did not intend for sexual orientation to be an issue with the list, however, Maine has a solid foundation of so-called religous wannabee's that think that tolerance is something only they can provide by being intolerant of people that are not exactly in their mold. I will stop right there before I really tell you what I think of these zealots. Sorry! Bob, I agree with you 100 % that it is not an issue on the list. Have a good one! Greg Leemana 37/7 -----Original Message----- From: Bob Chapman <[log in to unmask]> To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]> Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Ivan & Karen TV show(4/6/98) >Greg , I agree with your posting (below), except for your comments about Ivan's, or anyone's >sexuality. I have been a member of this list for 2 1/2 years now and the only thing I have seen >from the list is that IT DOESN'T MATTER! IT'S NOT AN ISSUE ! >Why does it keep coming up?? >Bob Chapman >[log in to unmask] > >Ivan M Suzman wrote: > >> ^^^^^^WARM GREETINGS FROM^^^^^^^^^ >> >> As I sit here at Ivan's computer at 3 am, Ivan is finally resting after >> a couple of very traumatic days. After the News program on Monday, Ivan >> had some personal problems that needed attention after what was an >> exhausting day. I hope he doesn't mind, but I am going to tell you a >> little bit about our friend. >> First of all he has the most severe off times of anyone I have met. He >> has dystonia so severe all his digits and limbs curl up to the point >> that he has to sit like an Indian or yoga style (whichever is politically >> incorrect) on the floor. He has severe cramping of all of his muscles. >> He has severe festination. If any of you have downloaded the avi file >> from Pallidotomy.com he is more severe with his gait than that young man >> was prior to surgery. He is sometimes, shall we say melodramatic, >> however there is not a soul I know personally that shows courage on a >> daily basis the way Ivan does. >> He is also subject to this countries misplaced priorities. What are >> these eggheads thinking of when they appropriate fund for the endowment >> of the arts and not one cent has gone through for this most insidious >> prison for our brains. I don't want to hear any bull----- logic about >> how important the arts are. >> PPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Spare me the tired old lines about who draws the line on art being >> acceptable. I just don't see the logic behind supporting something so >> insignificant and benign. Why should we provide federal funding in a >> capitalist society for a private enterprise. Right now I think the >> Googenheim is some maneuver to dislodge the excess pork from the gluttons >> who serve in Congress. Ivan won't agree, somehow I think this opinion is >> a no brainer. >> Back to our friend. He tries insatiably to get things done on our >> behalf. He will not take no for an answer. He has tried for several >> weeks now to get one of the local politicians to attend the gala on >> Saturday in Falmouth, Maine. He finally got Tom Allen the first district >> Congressman from Portland to commit. He is one of two Democratic House >> members while we have two Moderate female Senators whom have big shoes to >> fill for George Mitchell and Bill Cohen. Ivan also wouldn't rest until >> he got the wording he wanted and worked so hard to pen on the Governors >> Proclamation. You see, Ivan is a survivor in the truest sense of the >> word. He speaks his mind, when he has overstepped he usually succumbs to >> politeness even if he does so stubbornly at times. >> Ivan is honest about his sexual orientation. I am sure some people can't >> get past that. Homophobics are alive and well in most locals in this >> country I don't hold it against him even if there is not a genetic >> disposition. Think about that next time someone stares at your pill >> rolling hands or your chorea like dance to the movement Gods. If you feel >> it is unfair that you are singled out because of something beyond your >> control, try and remember that next time you question a person's sexual >> orientation. I would invite anyone whom thinks a 13 year old with gay >> tendencies had learned behavior instead of a gene alteration or >> mutation. A little toleration can go a long way in keeping an already >> difficult existence alive and somewhat positive. >> >> Your List Friend >> Greg Leeman 37/7 >> created on the computer of >> Ivan Suzman 48/11 [log in to unmask] >> Portland, Maine land of lighthouses deg. F >> *********************************************************** >> >> On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:57:45 -0500 Ivan M Suzman <[log in to unmask]> writes: >> >^^^^^^WARM GREETINGS FROM^^^^^^^^^^ >> >Ivan Suzman 48/11 [log in to unmask] >> >Portland, Maine land of lighthouses 43 deg. F "warm" >> >*********************************************************** >> > >> >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:43:10 CST Margaret Mates >> ><[log in to unmask]> >> >writes: >Ivan S. and Karen B.... are there any plans to duplicate and >> >>sell copies of your TV appearance as was done with the first >> >>TV appearance of Ivan??? I would certainly like to get a >> >>copy of this show also. Margaret Mates >> >> >> >Dear Margaret, >> > >> > Tonight my friend Nancy and I, and a painter named John,watched the >> >video together for the first time.. It is really amazing. First of >> >all, half-way through, enters Jon, Karen's husband. His emotions and >> >his honesty and coping mechanisms, and the shock at the deal of the >> >cards Karen has received are all wonderfully and openly shared. >> > Karen is just extraordinary! With unshakeable determinedness, she >> >doesn't let PD get in her way. She is planning on climbing Mt. >> >Katahdin in June!! She talks about SO many of her symptoms, >> >explaining how "intenal tremors" feel, how she got diagnosed, how >> >eating became impossible, how she tells EVERYBODY she has PD. Inform >> >and educate are two o fher key words. >> > Nancy laughed when once or twice she saw me give way to Karen >> >instead >> >of answering. Well, I figured, why be a control freak when it was >> >already my 2nd TV show. I did see my own facial mask for the very >> >first time. My mouth twists stiffly down into a growing frown, even >> >when I'm feeling no anger or sadness at all! I talk about how I was >> >diagnosed, and we plug the Udall bill and its need for funding. >> > Margaret, this TV show outclasses the 1st show, and NEVER deviates >> >from the topic of PD. The LIVE, called-in questions are amazing-- like >> >the woman who, after her husband's death, shares her posthumous guilt >> >feelings for having beenn too demanding on him, the woman who shakes, >> >scared to face the facts, the woman who wonders about how we PWP's >> >manage to socialize within a fearful and withdrawn society, the need >> >for support groups, >> > I highly recommend this tape, BUT attention folks, I am NOT able to >> >distribute copies this time around. I am tired this spring, and >> >muist save my energies for other important projects. >> >Give us Mainahs some time to pondah, and we'll figure out how you can >> >get >> >a tape. thank, Maragret!! I'm sure Karen and Greg will figure out the >> >answers. >> > >> >Yours, >> >Ivan >> > >