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In a message dated 98-04-10 09:45:47 EDT, [log in to unmask] writes: << Thanks to you, Greg, for the thoughtful and empathic view of our listfriend, Ivan. And thanks especially to Ivan for his tireless-but-tiring efforts on behalf of all of us. >> I was trying to figure out how to word my thanks to the two of you also, but I think that Camilla's succinct version covers it all. Shel (60/7)