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REF: J. Hawkins suggestions. I join this list from time to time and leave it when I no longer want to wade through all the extraneous material. I'd planed to sign off today but I'd like to see if the folks who persist in writing to each other on the list will take the suggestion. I automatically skip anything written by these list people and if there is any "meat" in their efforts I guess I just miss it. [log in to unmask]