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hi ivan you wrote, in part: >Another "young" parkie has commited suicide. :... at the risk of repeating myself i don't believe that the cause of this suicide can be blamed on parkinson's i do believe that the cause of this suicide can be blamed on a distorted perception of parkinson's directly attributable to clinical depression >Why do we have to lose "family" like this???... as i see it the problems are 1. we , as a society, are ashamed of expressions of pain and anger and grief 2. we, as a society, are doubly ashamed of such expressions in men 3. we, as a society, attach a 'loony-bin' label to any 'mental illness' >WHAT do we do now? just what you are doing talk about it bring all this toxic shame baggage out of our too-long-closed-up basements and attics into the fresh air and into the bright light of understanding the sooner the better with love for you and yours your cyber-sis in spring-cleaning janet janet paterson 51/10 - sinemet/selegiline/prozac almonte/ontario/canada - [log in to unmask]