In a message dated 5/14/98 8:38:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Just as scientists have little use for anecdote, Visco, adopting the stringency of a corporate boardroom/lab bench hybrid, relies solely on being so thoroughly versed in the latest data on cancer, and so intimately acquainted with the needs of breast cancer patients that scientists would be foolish not to seek NBCC's input when designing clinical trials. "We're partners and collaborators with research scientists," she stated. "We can help design research protocols and proposals. We really do know what we're talking about -- we don't just bang the table and scream. We consider ourselves responsible activists." >> OK, that's a great way to be.however... How did all of these marvelous AIDS and breast cancer advocates get so well educated? Why can't we do so? For years, some of us have complained that our scientific community has been inaccessible to us in the trenches. Without knowing what is actually going on out there, we are left to advocate "pigs in pokes" --which (rightly) do not sell well on Capitol Hill . Thank heaven for Dr Lieberman. Then there is also the problem that our well reasoned letters seem to go into a "fer 'it" or "agin it" pile Given fist banging or doing nothing, however, I choose the former. I AM TIRED OF HAVING THIS STUPID DISEASE, Regards WHH 54/18